[identity profile] drzarron.livejournal.com 2007-12-27 03:58 pm (UTC)(link)
This can only end in fire.

And you also know the Indian government is sitting there watching this with both thoughts of "Will this spread to us?" and "How can we exploit this to our advantage".

Does Not Bode Well, indeed.

[identity profile] devospice.livejournal.com 2007-12-27 04:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm waiting for Chimpy's little comment on this. "Fight terr'r. Stay the course. 9/11! Takes time. 9/11. Economy's fine. 9/11. Stay the course."
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[identity profile] nimitzbrood.livejournal.com 2007-12-27 04:01 pm (UTC)(link)
The one thing that area of the world doe not need right now is something to inflame things.

This could be very very bad. :-(

[identity profile] fair-witness.livejournal.com 2007-12-27 04:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Very, very messy situation.

[identity profile] umbran.livejournal.com 2007-12-27 04:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Heck of a way to approach a new year. Instability in Pakistan is one of those least-needed things in the world.

[identity profile] aulayan.livejournal.com 2007-12-27 04:06 pm (UTC)(link)
And you know what my first thought upon seeing it this morning?

"Taliban or Musharrif?"
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[personal profile] poltr1 2007-12-27 04:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I saw the note on MSN.com (which happens to be my home page) and felt both sadness and anger.


[identity profile] shockwave77598.livejournal.com 2007-12-27 04:07 pm (UTC)(link)
*shrugs* It was inevitable. And it won't be the last you see, I promise. Pity.

[identity profile] figmo.livejournal.com 2007-12-27 05:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd be lying through my teeth if I said I was surprised. When Bhutto came back to Pakistan she knew she was walking into a death trap. I'm not sure whether to call it "brave" or "foolish" on her part.

Many years earlier I read an interview with her in a news magazine. She was just finishing up her studies in England and talking about what the future had in store for her. She mentioned her life-plan was to "go back to Pakistan" to follow in her father's footsteps and lead her country, and that it was "expected" of her to do so. She also mentioned in that interview, when she was in her early 20s, how she knew it was likely she'd be assasinated, and walked into the situation knowing this was "part of what goes along with the job."

Every time I saw some women's magazine interviewing or talking about "great female leaders," I always wondered why they happily interviewed "first ladies" whose "leadership" solely involved being married to a leader, yet never touched folks like Bhutto (or Corazon Aquino), who got the right education and knowingly threw herself into harm's way.

[identity profile] vixyish.livejournal.com 2007-12-27 05:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh god.

[identity profile] randwolf.livejournal.com 2007-12-27 06:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe now that she's a martyr, she'll get more cred. Links to coverage at my LJ (http://randwolf.livejournal.com/148639.html).

[identity profile] darrenzieger.livejournal.com 2007-12-27 06:55 pm (UTC)(link)
From the Washington Post:


"Bhutto, 54, was being driven from the rally in her bulletproof vehicle when she asked that the rooftop hatch be opened so she could bid supporters farewell, according to several aides, including one who was sitting next to her...As she leaned her head through the hatch, between three and five gunshots rang out..."


(Emphases mine, of course)

I know she was expecting to be assassinated eventually. It was inevitable. But that's just f-ing suicidal. Jeezus, if you believe enough in a cause to die for it, and you're the leader, you owe it to yourself and your comrades to do everything in your power to postpone the inevitable.

Dammit dammit dammit.

[identity profile] voiceofkiki.livejournal.com 2007-12-27 07:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Shit. That is all. Unwelcome news indeed.

[identity profile] bayushisan.livejournal.com 2007-12-27 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree that it doesn't bode well. You can be assured that the current presidential nominees will all have their two cents to chime in about it. We'll probably hear the same thing "terrible tragedy, could have been avoided, etc." To be sure this will cause instability in and already unstable area of the world.

The great tragedy is that she knew that there were people who wanted to kill her. You have to think that, at least on some level, she had to have known that lowering the window and leaning out was flirting with death a bit more closely than was wise. Maybe she wanted to show that she couldn't be intimidated, at this point all we can do is speculate and hope for the best.

[identity profile] moquif.livejournal.com 2007-12-28 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
If I believed in curses, I'd swear that section of the world is suffering from one big curse. Of all the religions that are easily adapted to support oppression and tyranny, Islam is at the top of my list. Second is Hinduism due to its caste system. Guess where those religions meet.

Stopping terrorism doesn't primarily involve violence, it's involves wisdom and reason. The trick is getting those who are wise and reasonable in power and keeping them alive. Think about it, how often has violence stopped religious violence. Now look at Christianity before and after the Age of Reason.

[identity profile] aulayan.livejournal.com 2007-12-28 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
According to Wolf Blitzer (yeah yeah), here is an e-mail written by Bhutto back in October that could only be released in her death.

"Nothing will, God Willing, happen. Just wanted u to know if it does in addition to the names in my letter to Musharaf of Oct 16nth, I wld hold Musharaf [responsible. I have been made to feel insecure by his minions, and there is no way what is happening in terms of stopping me from taking private cars or using tinted windows or giving jammers or four police mobiles to cover all sides cld happen without him."

[identity profile] tigertoy.livejournal.com 2007-12-28 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
My understanding of the situation in Pakistan (this decade, not just today) is based on being a regular listener to NPR and BBC newscasts and skimming the international print headlines regularly. My understanding may not really reflect reality, but my understanding says that unless Musharraf is both stupider and more crazy thank Pinky, he can't possibly be behind this. The only people who can possibly advance their political goals are the Islamist crazies. Musharraf's only sane hope of staying in power was to ally with Bhutto, and our government's only sane hope of continuing to have a Pakistani lapdog is legitimizing and shoring up Musharraf.

Even if Musharraf's agents didn't actually kill her, if Bhutto's posthumous allegations aren't a total fabrication, they totally undermine his position as a leader. I'll be shocked if he's still around in another year, and unfortunately, I think the best case scenario is that the army will get tired of him and push him aside in another military coup. The likely scenario is several years of lurching around hunting for a strong, popular leader the country will line up behind. The too-likely nightmare is open civil war, and the worst case is the Islamists take over full control.

[identity profile] vettecat.livejournal.com 2007-12-28 07:00 am (UTC)(link)
That's putting it mildly... eeek.