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filkertom ([personal profile] filkertom) wrote2009-04-13 02:42 pm
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Amazon Fail: Another Update

Interesting stuff. No public statement yet from Amazon, and they really could use one. One guy claims responsibility. Another guy calls bullshit.

Much more important, I have received a message from someone who works for Amazon (who wants to remain anonymous), saying on good authority that it really actually was a glitch. Somebody did something stupid, and the problem is that the sheer scale of what happened means it will take awhile to sort out. But they are on it.

I don't know any of this for sure myself (although I'm inclined to believe the Amazon employee); we'll see what goes on. However, I did have to tell you guys about one thing. Last night, I was speaking with [livejournal.com profile] sazettel, who suggested a possible way of affecting Amazon directly if it did turn out to be their fault and deliberate: Everyone who has one return their Kindle.

At which point I started laughing like a loon, and created these:


I probably should get the domain putthekindleback.com or something, but I don't care all that much. And, who knows, they may fix everything up this afternoon. But I at least wanted to share the joke. If you use 'em, please credit me and tomsmithonline.com.

ETA: the info from the Amazon employee.

[identity profile] selenesue.livejournal.com 2009-04-13 08:03 pm (UTC)(link)
"Brokeback Mountain" is banned, but "Can Homosexuality be Healed?" isn't? Which one has the no-no topic in the title? I find this "glitch" theory mighty suspicious.
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[personal profile] jenk 2009-04-13 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Depends on what they're searching - description, title, etc. Note also "Essential Dykes To Watch Out For" retains its rank of #1 in Lesbian Studies.

That said, I'm leaning more toward a misrepresented list myself.

ETA: Also interesting that the "Women En Large" book of fat nudes is not ranked but Leonard Nimoy’s much more recent book of fat nudes is ranked.

Edited 2009-04-13 20:31 (UTC)

[identity profile] selenesue.livejournal.com 2009-04-13 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
So, basically it's the ones they have heard of. Books with some notoriety and recognition value. If I were Misty Lackey, I'd be a bit miffed about now. ;-)
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[personal profile] kshandra 2009-04-13 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Note also "Essential Dykes To Watch Out For" retains its rank of #1 in Lesbian Studies.

...but Fun Home had its rank removed. (It's back, now, and I'm sorry I didn't think to check the rest of Alison Bechdel's titles when I saw that it had been added to the list at [livejournal.com profile] meta_writer.)
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[personal profile] jenk 2009-04-13 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Interesting - Fun Home was one of the first I checked yesterday, and it had its rank then. (Of course when a site is in flux, it's in flux... ;)
Edited 2009-04-13 20:49 (UTC)

[identity profile] starcat-jewel.livejournal.com 2009-04-13 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
"Dear Author" has a post up showing how it might indeed be a fubar'd search algoritm using Amazon metadata tags which are inconsistently applied.

I spent 20 years as a computer programmer. Believe me, it's not necessary to impute malice even to something like this when there are so many ways for inconsistency, incompetence, and the "it's not working the way you think it's working" bug to combine to create the same results.

None of which is to say that the effect isn't bad, and I'm not happy that Amazon is still stonewalling about the fact that it happened at all. "We messed something up, and we're working as fast as we can to fix it without making matters even worse" would have gone a long way.
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[personal profile] jenk 2009-04-13 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Indeed - on all your points :)