I AM NOT HAPPY WITH THE UBER-RELIGIOUS RIGHT NOW

[filkertom]

Don't tell me how wonderful and virtuous God is. Not today. Not when, once again, God makes Pat Robertson open his big fat yap:

And you know, Kristi, something happened a long time ago in Haiti, and people might not want to talk about it. They were under the heel of the French. You know, Napoleon the third, or whatever. And they got together and swore a pact to the devil. They said, we will serve you if you will get us free from the French. True story. And so, the devil said, okay it's a deal.

And they kicked the French out. You know, the Haitians revolted and got themselves free. But ever since they have been cursed by one thing after the other. Desperately poor. That island of Hispaniola is one island. It is cut down the middle on the one side is Haiti the other is the Dominican Republic. Dominican Republic is prosperous, healthy, full of resorts, etc. Haiti is in desperate poverty. Same island. They need to have and we meed to pray for them a great turning to god and out of this tragedy I'm optimistic something good may come. But right now we are helping the suffering people and the suffering is unimaginable.

This greedy, squinty fucktard has, does, and will continue to blame anything on various and sundry people turning away from what he tells them is the True Faith. Notice that I didn't say "what he believes", 'cause I don't even think he believes it himself.

You want evil? Saying that an entire nation's troubles are based on a two-hundred-year-old fairy story, and further saying that they'd better come to your way of thinking before even worse happens... using a goddamn 7.0 earthquake as a warning poster to boost your church's recruitment... that is fuckin' evil.

ETA: Even Fox News is offended. Well, at least Shepard Smith, who is way, way better than a lot of people there.

Comments

[alverant.livejournal.com]

Except the only way for your god to test someone is to control others and there to be "collateral damage" to others. For example testing Robertson by making him rich has the consequence of making other people poorer. Testing someone's patience by making rush hour longer means mind controlling the other motorists. An all-knowing god, knows the results of a test before it is given so omniscience is only possible if there is no free will. Without free will we are not responsible for our actions (unless said god is evil). Since your god controls some people to "test" others, there is no free will and louisadkins' claim grows strong.

With your argument, there is no effective difference between a god who "tests" people in a variety of ways and there being no god whatsoever and we live in a universe with free will and as a consequence of having free will and no one micromanaging, good things will happen to people whether or not they deserve it and bad things will happen to people whether or not the deserve it. Just like the universe today.

[capplor.livejournal.com]

This gets into a branch of metaphysics which I'm not prepared to argue in a forum like this. I'll just say that you aren't thinking broadly enough & leave it.