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I love StumbleUpon.

Any cool pages you've Stumbled Upon lately? I love this picture of Einstein as the Jesus figure at a super-science Last Supper, the In B Flat 2.0 project, and One Sentence.

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Date: 2011-01-30 04:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redneckgaijin.livejournal.com
The Last Supper picture fails because it has Edison in it.

Edison wasn't a scientist. He was the Pointy Haired Boss who got scientists to work for him and then took credit for their work- that is, when he wasn't just stealing things lock, stock, and celluloid film stock.

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Date: 2011-01-30 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redneckgaijin.livejournal.com
Oh, extra penalty points for also having Neil DeGrasse "Pluto, You're Fired" Tyson in.

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Date: 2011-01-30 06:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizziecrowe.livejournal.com
That's..... that's different.

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Date: 2011-01-30 06:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arucartoonguy.livejournal.com
You'll also notice he's in the "Judas" position....

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Date: 2011-01-30 09:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alverant.livejournal.com
So how is having a better definition of "planet" not make someone a scientist?

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Date: 2011-01-30 09:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alverant.livejournal.com
The anime girls I found a bit disturbing because of their apparant age (yes, it's fiction and yes, it's drawings) and also because someone took the time to create that in the first place.

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Date: 2011-01-30 10:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redneckgaijin.livejournal.com
In this case, the "better definition" was simply gaming the system to ensure that nothing else discovered orbiting Sol would ever be called a "planet." Instead they'd be "dwarf planets," no more important or interesting than asteroids.

Instead of opening doors to wonder and discovery, Tyson lobbied hard to slam them shut.

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Date: 2011-01-30 11:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smparadox.livejournal.com
Actually, it was more like failing to game the system to keep a familiar designation in place. How does calling something the size of an asteroid (Ceres, as it used to be designated) a Dwarf Planet make it unimportant or uninteresting? For that matter, since when have asteroids been unimportant or uninteresting? The asteroid that hit 65 million years ago was kind of important, both to the dinosaurs and to the mammals!

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Date: 2011-01-31 12:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redneckgaijin.livejournal.com
Spoken like a fellow space enthusiast.

The problem is, in pre-college education, the solar system is taught thus:

"There's us. There's the moon, which is important because it orbits us. There's the Sun, which is important because we orbit it. There's Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune, each of which are important or interesting because they're planets like us. And then there's all the other junk which gets a total of two paragraphs in the textbook, except for that little box which says Pluto used to be important and now it's not."

In half the textbooks Ceres won't even be named. Eros MIGHT be named, as an example of Earth-transit asteroids. Apophis, the best candidate for Dinosaur Encore, won't even get a mention.

And as a result 90% of people on the street today will give you a blank stare if you mention any of those bodies, to say nothing of the 100,000 other named non-planet objects on the registry thus far.

And two generations from now- maybe only one- that same 90% will say, "Pluto? Isn't he Mickey's dog?"

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Date: 2011-01-31 02:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catlin.livejournal.com
I may need to reconcider my costume for this gencon... Wait, I cosplay the whole con... No need to confine myself to the game we are running! HAH!

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Date: 2011-01-31 02:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fayanora.livejournal.com
Edison is Judas?

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Date: 2011-01-31 02:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fayanora.livejournal.com
Amen, man. Edison sucked ass. Tesla could kick that dude's ass seven ways from Sunday in a fair fight.

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Date: 2011-01-31 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darthparadox.livejournal.com
I... sort of disagree. As far as the work that came out of his own lab goes, he seems to me to be in the same class as Andy Warhol or Stephen Wolfram or Jim Davis - he had a lot of strong (or at least profitable and recognized) individual work early in his career, and then he turned his name into a brand and started acting at one or two levels of indirection from the actual work that was going on.

I can't actually decide whether Edison or Wolfram is the bigger blowhard at this point.

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Date: 2011-01-31 08:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darthparadox.livejournal.com
And that was also true before, except that Pluto was also listed in the "important" list instead of having a sidebar. The question of Pluto's designation is entirely orthogonal to the problem of science education.

It's entirely possible that we'll discover, at some point in the future, a body in Sol orbit that has cleared its own orbital path sufficiently to be called a planet. But if we don't find one, then we don't find one.

Consistent definitions are important in science. Trying to muddle those definitions to maintain a historical designation that doesn't fit with everything else we know does a disservice to the future of science.

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Date: 2011-02-01 02:27 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] batyatoon
I'm finding myself annoyed that no one is drawing Pokemon as gorgeous anime men.

Come on, internet androphiles, don't let me down!

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