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Our government is specifically monitoring ABC News, The New York Times, and the Washington Post.

Let's try this again. DEFEND THIS. Anyone.

Impeach. Impeach. Impeach. We have to throw these scoundrels out before they destroy the country... if, indeed, they haven't already.

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Date: 2006-05-15 09:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] giza.livejournal.com
I'd love to see the paperwork on the search warrant for this.

Oh wait, search warrant? Not in THIS administration!

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Date: 2006-05-15 10:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shockwave77598.livejournal.com
Gee, it didn't take any time at all to go from "Trust us" to the inevitable abuse of said trust. I'm impressed! This has to be a new record or something.

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Date: 2006-05-15 10:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ericthemage.livejournal.com
To paraphrase Douglas Adams: They already destroyed the country, but no one noticed.

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Date: 2006-05-15 10:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] desert-dragon42.livejournal.com
Did you read the comments? Oy! I'm dumbfounded.

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Date: 2006-05-15 10:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] filkertom.livejournal.com
Indeed. My favorite was from "Amused Canadian", who said:
I thought the story was that the terrorists attacked America because they hate freedom. The only people I see who hate freedom around here are Bush supporters.

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Date: 2006-05-15 11:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nomaddervish.livejournal.com
"It's time for you to get some new cell phones, quick," the source told us in an in-person conversation.

Chris Carter should sue Bush for infringement. That sounds too much like something out of an X-Files episode to just be coincidence.

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Date: 2006-05-16 12:33 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kengr
Alas, even *before* the Bush administration, the Supreme Court had ruled that "pen trace registers" weren't wiretaps. There is *no* privacy of your "call data" (ie which number called what number, when and how long the call lasted.

I think that like a lot of other things the ease of data mining and correlating *huge* amounts of data mean this and other decisions need to be revisited.

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Date: 2006-05-16 12:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deadpool247.livejournal.com
I think the coke Bush used to do is now taking its toll again, and he's now become retro-paranoid (if such a word exists), hence all of the tapping and monitors, and border checking, and so forth.

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Date: 2006-05-16 12:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smallship1.livejournal.com
Has anything happened with Illinois' initiative to impeach?

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Date: 2006-05-16 01:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wwetuesday.livejournal.com
Impach all you want. Impeachment doesn't mean he's out of office. All it does is announcing the bringing of charges against Bush.

Clinton was impeached, he stayed in office, remember? The charges were eventually droped.

If Bush is impeached, he has no obligation to leave office.

Nixon was not impeached, as he resigned before it could happen.

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Date: 2006-05-16 01:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] filkertom.livejournal.com
You're right. Bring criminal charges, arrest him and the whole sick crew, and throw 'em in jail.

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Date: 2006-05-16 01:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deadpool247.livejournal.com
And not that Club Fed jail...send them to the dirty, grungy, ass-penetrating jail.

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Date: 2006-05-16 02:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] droewyn.livejournal.com
How horrible is it that this doesn't surprise me anymore?

During a heated political debate at my mom's house on Sunday, I kind of made a bet with my stepfather: If I can get nabbed by Homeland Security due to nothing more threatening than checking out library books, he'll agree that the administration is out of control and vote Democrat in November.

I already got my mom on "If Hilary Clinton did all of the things that Bush has done, would you be angry?"

Impeachment

Date: 2006-05-16 02:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bschilli.livejournal.com
Actually the charges weren't dropped, Clinton was acquitted.

Ben

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Date: 2006-05-16 03:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] naja-pallida.livejournal.com
I have a better solution for the Bushites... stop breaking the damn law and people won't have to start leak scandals. Then you won't have to tap them. Cut out the middle man.

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Date: 2006-05-16 06:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] partiallyclips.livejournal.com
Wait for it. Do your duty at the polls in November. Impeachment will not succeed when Republicans control both houses.

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Date: 2006-05-16 08:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] warinbear.livejournal.com
It sounds odd, but I hope you lose that bet -- not because I want him to not vote Democrat, but because I don't want you to be nabbed by DH(I)S.

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Date: 2006-05-16 11:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] droewyn.livejournal.com
Yeah... I'm going to have to think about that for a while. I'm not sure that the moral victory would be worth all the crap that could potentially fall on my head.

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Date: 2006-05-16 04:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beldar.livejournal.com
I was going to launch a defense tongue-in-cheek, but the actual rantings in the comments do it better.
"I'm tired of the press helping our enemies."
How? Al Qaeda probably knew about the secret prisons, or at least suspected them. How does knowing they are in Romania and Poland help? I doubt that ABC gave enough info for a rescue/escape plan. How does "running a secret prison" equal "intelligence gathering"? And learn to spell "spies," dipshit.

who knows how many serviceman have died because of your "right to know"</>
I'd like to see that figure. Please. How many soldier deaths can be directly traced to ABC (or any other media) reports? Never mind the number of reporters that have died.

Almost as distressing as this story is the number of Americans who have swallowed the Coulterian line of the NYT, ABC, etc. being "traitors." Treason is a capital offense, I don't take it well when folks want me and my coworkers dead.

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Date: 2006-05-17 11:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nomaddervish.livejournal.com
Half accurate... Impeachment is essentially the formal filing of charges, after which the Senate conducts a trial. If 2/3 of the Senators present vote to convict, the President would be removed from office and the Senate could further rule that he may never hold any federal office in the future.

So impeachment does not itself forcibly remove the President from office, but it is the first step on the road to doing so.

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