Rose And The Doctor

[filkertom]

I realize I'm late to the game on these. Same as with Firefly. But, damn, I do love DVD season sets.

I am very slowly savoring my way through both Battlestar Galactica: Season One and the Christopher Eccleston Doctor Who. And I'm realizing something really important.

I love BG. No question, it's great. Not a thing wrong with it, especially remarkable given the original.

But Doctor Who, this Doctor Who, touches my soul.

I liked The Doctor. I especially liked Tom Baker, although my first encounter was with Peter Cushing in the two movies that hardly anyone has ever seen.

But now I'm a fan.

I have rarely fallen in love with a character the way I have with Rose. Billie Piper is wonderful. And Eccleston... perfect. He's perfect. They're perfect together. The scripts are clever as hell. The acting and SFX are top-notch. The music is excellent (I really love what Murray Gold has done with Ron Granier's original theme -- the string work in particular just pushes it along). And the palpable feeling of the characters' love and respect for life, in all its forms, informs every moment of the show.

I've only made it through one frickin' disk.

I'm not gonna read this thread, I think. -- Ahhh, who am I kidding? But, do the fanboy/fangirl squee thing to your hearts' content. Spoil away. Just label it as Spoilery, please.

Comments

[ruisseau.livejournal.com]

I also love Doctor Who. :)

I won't spoil anyone here. Heck, I'm even gonna be careful about my icon choice.

[drzarron.livejournal.com]

I am so with you.

I've always been a Dr Who fan. The "SenseOWonder".

But from his first appearence, when he introduces himself and tells Rose to "Run" I knew there was something special about this one.

The episode "Dalek" is one of the BEST pieces of SF ever done on TV, ever.

[annathepiper]

*beam* I'd been watching Doctor Who over the shoulders of spazzkat and solarbird for years, but never really had become a fan until Christopher Eccleston's Ninth Doctor.

That brought me into the fold. Because I mean, damn. :D And Rose was a huge, huge part of that!

Just wait till you get to David Tennant and the Tenth Doctor, too! ;)

[druidsfire.livejournal.com]

There's a /reason/ the new RAV I bought last year was blue. :) It also has a bumper sticker I've been saving for 15 years until I got the right car for it: My other car is a TARDIS.

I also have to say that I've been a fan since I was kneehigh to a grasshopper, but this new incarnation made me give a real /damn/ about the show again... the biggest damn one could give about the show... well, ever. For the first time, it has real emotional /bite/, it gives you the sense that things /matter/. Unlike some other SF shows that are just pure entertainment or fluff. No offense to them, of course.

And hey, Tom, if you get the filking urge to write Who-songs, lemme know, cos my show on Dementia Radio (Radio Free Gallifrey) is the /perfect/ place to play them. I'll find the slimmest excuse to play a song if it has a Who reference in it (once played Pink Floyd's 'One of These Days' because David Gilmour was playing the Who theme on his lap guitar for all of a few seconds), but a whole song about Doctor Who from you? Hell yeah! I don't even care if it's funny or technically 'dementia', I'll play it anyway.

[neadods.livejournal.com]

The episode "Dalek" is one of the BEST pieces of SF ever done on TV, ever.

Empty Child/The Doctor Dances. Best Dr. Who episodes ever made, bar none.

[neadods.livejournal.com]

Just wait till you get to David Tennant and the Tenth Doctor, too! ;)

DT is wonderful - but the characterization of Rose became very uneven. Damned pity, too.

[neadods.livejournal.com]

Radio Free Gallifrey? URL, please?

[druidsfire.livejournal.com]

It airs Friday nights from 9-10pm Eastern on Dementia Radio (http://www.dementiaradio.org), and you can listen in with iTunes or Win Media Player or WinAmp with choices for either broadband (http://www.dementiaradio.org:8027) or dialup (http://www.dementiaradio.org:8000). Aside from the themesong of the show being the 10th Doctor theme, I try to find an excuse to play at least one Who-related song every show.

[scifantasy.livejournal.com]

DOCTOR: "I'm Doctor Who...Doctor!"
COMPANIONS: "Who, who! Who, who!"

("Who Are You," by The Who.)

I think I'm going to try to develop this one out...

Spoilery, Slightly

[scifantasy.livejournal.com]

I'm with you. The stand-out line of the latter edges out the stand-out from the former.

[per_solo]

I have, since April, fallen in love with this series. At Incon, part of my Sunday was watching the series 2 finale, in a room full of fans. Never have been able to get into the show before that, and that was an experience I can only match by remembering watching the Season 3 premiere of Babylon 5 with a group of fans who hadn't seen it yet.

I want your review at the end of your next disc. :-) There are several episodes that show they aren't just putting on good tv, they are having FUN while doing it.

To me, it took the ideas of the older Who, and mixed in X-Files, and a few other shows that have aired since then. And, I'm hooking my 6 year old nephew (6 or 7). :-)

Re: Spoilery, Slightly

[neadods.livejournal.com]

Plus, the introduction of Jack! All hail the Doctor made human and pervy Jack!

[devospice.livejournal.com]

I second everything you said, Tom.

The new Doctor Who just ROCKS!

And yeah, Dalek, The Empty Child, and Father's Day just friggin' rule!

->Later.....Spice

[unclelumpy.livejournal.com]

One of the things I've always loved about the Doctor is how he can be so brash and arrogant and yet so selflessly humanitarian at the same time.

Eccleston captures that to a "T".

In many ways, it's similar to the "Intellectual Liberal" dilemma. We love humanity with all our hearts and want to help it grow, but sometimes it's so hard to get past how willfully and mind-bogglingly stupid it can so often be.

Which is probably why the Doctor, rather than try to save the many worlds he visits, just fixes the MAIN problem and leaves the world to deal with the aftermath itself, at times taking only one or two traveling companions at a time so he can return them, further enlightened, in hopes that they can make their world a little better of a place.

[aylinn.livejournal.com]

Heh. Welcome to the love fest.

Now you understand (or you will soon) why I was so upset when Eccleston wimped after only one season.

Tennant's not bad. I've had a chance to catch a few courtesy of a friend of mine.

oh, and you definitely want to hit the BEEB's website.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/

AFTER you've caught up to David, though. It's a very spoilery site.

Re: Spoilery, Slightly

[aylinn.livejournal.com]

So, you'll be signing up for Torchwood then?

Oops...

[scifantasy.livejournal.com]

I have just realized that it may not be kosher to do something like that...posting lyrics, I mean. I'm reminded of the JMS/Marion Zimmer Bradley problems on a smaller, but not any different legally, scale. Tom, should I delete the comment?

Re: Spoilery, Slightly

[scifantasy.livejournal.com]

Signing up?

[drzarron.livejournal.com]

VERY true indeed.

I think "Dalek" hit me just right cause it harkens back, tying in the older DW to the lastest.

EC/DD is also AMAZING work too.

[mouser.livejournal.com]

You've got the DvD set, so you will be going back and watching earlier stuff again. (Yes, you will - with the words coming out of your mouth "How did I miss that?")

Because it gets BETTER.

[drzarron.livejournal.com]

We also have to send props to Russell Davies, the REAL secret behind the quality of the new DWs. Davis is on par with Joss Whedon and Joe Straczynski for utter quality of story telling and dialog.

Re: Oops...

[filkertom.livejournal.com]

Hah?


Hah?


First, for whatever reason I missed the JMS/MZB tiff. Second, you barely did a quote. It clearly comes under Fair Use provisions. Third, I say it's fine.

Re: Oops...

[scifantasy.livejournal.com]

First, for whatever reason I missed the JMS/MZB tiff.

Two separate tiffs, just related.

First, some years ago, Bradley, who had been supportive of fanfic, wrote a novel in her Darkover setting, and a fanfic author complained--and, I believe, sued--saying it was too similar to her fanfic. The novel was scrapped, and Bradley reversed her position on fanfic.

Second...do you know the Babylon 5 episode "Waiting For Gesthemene"? The plot of that ep--"mindwiped killer remembers his past" was planned for a first-season episode...until, on the main B5 newsgroup, a fan speculated "what if there was a story about a mindwiped killer remembering his past?" The ep got shelved for two years while JMS tracked down the fan to get him to sign disclaimers saying he wouldn't sue, and the newsgroup moved to a moderated format.

Come to think of it, the other day, Warren Ellis announced he had to leave Livejournal for the same reason.

My concern wasn't copyright backward, it was forward...if you wrote a filk of "Who Are You," would I complain, etc. However, I'm sure I'm just being paranoid. I'm sure if you ever did get inspired to a filk by snippets someone wrote here, you'd credit them...after all, you did that with the 24 Hour Comic Day projects.

*grin* Thanks for the OK, though.

[sdelmonte]

I'm a Whovian since the mid-80s, but I never had any illusions that the old show was great TV. Fun, entertaining, but never really great I was simply happy that it was coming back, and that a fan was getting to do it.

I never, ever expected what we got from Davies and Eccleston and Piper and everyone else. And I never expected that the Doctor would be cool, would be the character everyone wnated to see more of.

Oh, and I never expected to be moved by it.

[hms42]

if you think Dalek linked the old and new series.. Wait till you see the 3rd episode of Series 2... (Christmas Invasion was a one shot Xmas episode.)

I really have to find the time to watch episode 11 of Series 2...

Tom - You are GOING to enjoy the rest of series 1. Its GOOD.

Harold