Of course. Because nobody could possibly be a member of a group that is traditionally associated with one part and yet be a member of That Other Party. How dare she.
Damn I miss the days when people could be on different sides of an issue without feeling the need to tear each other down instead of discussing that issue or agreeing not to discuss it because of their friendship.
That is not the point at all. The point is clearly labeled in the column. It's all the personal hypocrisy of the Cheneys.
Mary's parents have campaigned on the issue that people like Mary are pretty much evil and subhuman, and have appealed to the worst instincts and fears that others have about gays and lesbians. Mary has helped in those campaigns. Now that she and her partner are going to have a child themselves -- something they've tried to deny politically to other gays and lesbians -- Dick and Lynne are looking forward to being grandparents, and questions about the well-it's-okay-for-us hypocrisy of it all are "out of line". Bullshit.
Mary helped the Bush-Cheney campaign despite being against the Anti-Homosexual agenda because in her mind, the other platforms that Bush-Cheney supported she felt were more important. I never supported everything Kerry said in 2004 but I helped try and get him elected. Does that make me a hypocrit or should I only campaign for presidential elects that I support completely?
I didn't agree with a lot of Kerry's positions, either. But Kerry didn't ask me, and I presume didn't ask you, to pretend to be something I wasn't. Didn't ask us to deny my sexuality. Didn't ask us to write and campaign counter to my sexuality. Didn't ask us to discriminate against ourselves.
I really don't think this is a particularly difficult or obscure point to get. The Cheneys have made much political hay attacking gays, and now they're trying to make political hay about how wonderful it is that their daughter is gay. Mary Cheney herself has worked against the interests of other gays trying to do exactly what she's doing now.
Sorry, I get a little tired of the name calling instead of actual criticism.
Whether it be my friends from the left saying "chimpy" and repugnican, (or calling a woman they disagree with a bitch) or my friends on the right saying things like demonrat and Feinswine, I get really sick of it. It takes what could be an actual discussion and turns it into childish barbs.
Call her a hypocrite. That is accurate. Stop there.
"Family friendly" or not, I think AmericaBlog should have had the link to the Dan Savage original page. With appropriate warnings, of course. But it is such an angry and appropriate column that it deserves to be read. And only Tom Smith, that warm and generous and thinking man, remembered to put up the link.
Pardon me, but what's the big problem with Mary Cheney here?
She isn't talking with her dad but is willing to defend him when she feels things have gone too far. That shows, in my mind, that she is a far better person than her father who has nothing to do with her because of her lesbianism. My dad committed adultery and I'd defend him if I felt people were out of line in confronting him on it. He's my dad.
What disturbs me is this: And now that your dad is a despised lame-duck VP, dad’s gay-bashing political allies feel free to treat you with the same contempt with which they have long treated other gay and lesbians. And now you cry foul?
Why is it so wrong for a person to not want to be out campaigning?
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branchandroot
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Date: 2007-02-02 10:30 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-02-03 12:15 pm (UTC)Damn I miss the days when people could be on different sides of an issue without feeling the need to tear each other down instead of discussing that issue or agreeing not to discuss it because of their friendship.
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Date: 2007-02-03 01:56 pm (UTC)Mary's parents have campaigned on the issue that people like Mary are pretty much evil and subhuman, and have appealed to the worst instincts and fears that others have about gays and lesbians. Mary has helped in those campaigns. Now that she and her partner are going to have a child themselves -- something they've tried to deny politically to other gays and lesbians -- Dick and Lynne are looking forward to being grandparents, and questions about the well-it's-okay-for-us hypocrisy of it all are "out of line". Bullshit.
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Date: 2007-02-03 06:41 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-02-04 01:24 am (UTC)I really don't think this is a particularly difficult or obscure point to get. The Cheneys have made much political hay attacking gays, and now they're trying to make political hay about how wonderful it is that their daughter is gay. Mary Cheney herself has worked against the interests of other gays trying to do exactly what she's doing now.
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Date: 2007-02-04 01:57 pm (UTC)Whether it be my friends from the left saying "chimpy" and repugnican, (or calling a woman they disagree with a bitch) or my friends on the right saying things like demonrat and Feinswine, I get really sick of it. It takes what could be an actual discussion and turns it into childish barbs.
Call her a hypocrite. That is accurate. Stop there.
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Date: 2007-02-03 05:23 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-02-03 12:15 pm (UTC)Mary Cheney, you've stood up to be counted with the worst of humanity. Who gives a damn what you think?
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Date: 2007-02-03 02:04 pm (UTC)She isn't talking with her dad but is willing to defend him when she feels things have gone too far. That shows, in my mind, that she is a far better person than her father who has nothing to do with her because of her lesbianism. My dad committed adultery and I'd defend him if I felt people were out of line in confronting him on it. He's my dad.
What disturbs me is this: And now that your dad is a despised lame-duck VP, dad’s gay-bashing political allies feel free to treat you with the same contempt with which they have long treated other gay and lesbians. And now you cry foul?
Why is it so wrong for a person to not want to be out campaigning?