It's not that I do not have the words for this latest outrage. Ohhh, I've got the words. I'm just blind with anger, and don't feel like peeling all of y'all's paint at a distance over the internet.
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Get a load of this:
Update:
randwolf has a few more links:
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Get a load of this:
Have you ever faced a pop-up that wouldn't go away? You try clicking it closed and another pops up in less than a nanosecond. You reboot the system, annoyed that your anti-spyware program let something slip through.Trust me, I do have the words. But I'm not sure I have the self-restraint to keep from doing damage to myself or the vicinity if I let loose.
That's a hassle, sure--but chances are, your experience won't land you in jail.
Julie Amero, a substitute teacher in Norwich, Connecticut, has been convicted of impairing the morals of a child and risking injury to a minor by exposing as many as ten seventh-grade students to porn sites.
It's a short story: On October, 19, 2004, Amero was a substitute teacher for a seventh-grade language class at Kelly Middle School. A few students were crowded around a PC; some were giggling. She investigated and saw the kids looking at a barrage of graphic, hard-core pornographic pop-ups.
The prosecution contended that she had used the computer to visit porn sites.
The defense said that wasn't true and argued that the machine was infested with spyware and malware, and that opening the browser caused the computer to go into an endless loop of pop-ups leading to porn sites.
Amero maintains her innocence. She refused offers of a plea bargain and now faces an astounding 40 years in prison (her sentencing is on March 2).
Update:
- http://www.alternet.org/story/46925/
- http://majikthise.typepad.com/majikthise_/julie_amero/index.html
- http://julieamer.blogspot.com/2007/02/contribute-to-julie.html (this is a link to the Legal Defense Fund)
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Date: 2007-02-15 03:53 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-02-15 04:01 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-02-15 04:12 pm (UTC)There is a legal defense fund here (http://julieamer.blogspot.com/2007/02/contribute-to-julie.html) - according to Maura at MyLeftNutmeg.com (http://www.myleftnutmeg.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=5793), this has been verified with the Amero family.
Worst of all, she was pregnant at the time, and lost the baby shortly after being arrested.
(no subject)
Date: 2007-02-16 01:36 am (UTC)Axe grinding time. Hearing-protection equipment required.
Date: 2007-02-18 01:50 pm (UTC)Male teachers must continually straddle a fine, fine line. They must be more benign, more saintly, and to some degree more effeminate than their XX counterparts. Don't want to intimidate the little children, after all.
Of course, if he leans too far in THAT direction...well, I think we can all guess what happens.
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Date: 2007-02-15 04:18 pm (UTC)Furthermore, the district's anti-virus software had expired due to incompetence on the part of an administrator, which allowed the garbage through.
She's a scapegoat for the mistakes of other people. It's both unreal and unacceptable.
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Date: 2007-02-15 05:15 pm (UTC)Simply having a computer available for work doesn't make you a geek.
More commentary on this case: http://www.vitalsecurity.org/2007/02/pox-on-thee-norwich-connecticut.html
(no subject)
Date: 2007-02-15 05:06 pm (UTC)I seriously don't think you should be allowed to vote or make judgements or rulings on anything computer-related if you don't understand the technology.
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Date: 2007-02-15 05:20 pm (UTC)Poor lady.. losing her baby from the stress, no doubt.
How's THAT for endangering a minor?
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Date: 2007-02-15 05:37 pm (UTC)I have certainly had the experience of seeing unwanted sex-related sites pop up on my screen.
The dubious but arguable rationale for a computer-illiterate jury is that if they knew anything about computers, they would be ineligible on the grounds that they already knew something about the case. But I see no reason why expert testimony was not permitted.
(no subject)
Date: 2007-02-15 06:11 pm (UTC)To which I say, "duh." But with more swearing.
(no subject)
Date: 2007-02-16 07:52 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-02-17 05:42 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-02-15 05:43 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-02-15 05:47 pm (UTC)No?
(no subject)
Date: 2007-02-15 06:02 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-02-15 08:16 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-02-15 06:10 pm (UTC)denial of responsibility
Date: 2007-02-15 06:33 pm (UTC)The software industry doesn't seem to think of spam as anything more than a marketing opportunity, to sell us more self-defense measures. And as long as the copyfight is eating everyone's brain, there's little attention left over for addressing the real resource waster.
Until that happens, we're going to see the little guy get scapegoated.
Re: denial of responsibility
Date: 2007-02-16 12:36 am (UTC)I work for Microsoft, doing applied research in their anti-spam group. I think I can guarantee you that if MS had a foolproof way of blocking all spam (while blocking no good mail) it would provide it. Same goes with most other email providers: the more spam that they have to deal with, the more resources are required, and the less satisfied their customers are.
There are basically two different ways that you can try to deal with spam: as a technical problem (figure out which email is spam and block it before the user sees it) and as a social problem (i.e., go after violators of the CAN-SPAM act or similar legislation).
Lots of people--including MS--are working on each of these approaches. Perhaps not in as coordinated a way as possible, but in fact there are a lot of entities--individual people, corporations, and governments--that are putting a lot of time and resources into solving these problems. Spamming (and phishing) is a major industry for the spammers, and there are some pretty smart people behind the spam that you get.
The technical approach is difficult for a few reasons:
* "spam" is not well-defined. Lots of email is pretty clearly spam, but it wouldn't get sent if at least some people didn't read it and get influenced by it. There's also an awful lot of "graymail", sent by bulk emailers, for which the population is divided (in some cases 50% think it's spam and 50% don't).
* Much, if not most, of spam these days gets sent by bots, which are compromised computers that do various things (including sending spam) by remote control. This means that most of the machines that are sending spam are doing so without their owner's knowledge. There are easily millions of such compromised machines all over the world.
* Filtering spam based on its characteristics has always been an arms race: anti-spam software learns to block spam with certain characteristics, so the spammers change the characteristics. Some types of spam emails are very expensive for computers to process, but are trivial for human beings to read (e.g. image-based spam).
The social/legal approach is difficult for three reasons:
* the identity of the spammer is often hard to trace (in part because of the use of botnets)
* jurisdiction problems (most of the worst spammers are located in countries from which extradition is at least problematic).
* the aforementioned bulk mailers don't want anti-spam laws that are too restrictive, any more than telemarketers were happy about the Do Not Call List law being passed.
(Side note: spam is not necessarily the direct cause of the problem here; there are a few different ways that pop-ups can start showing up, and virus-laden spam is just one of the delivery mechanisms. We're working on ways of trying to address the others as well.)
Re: technical/social fixes
Date: 2007-02-16 02:53 am (UTC)I hear that there are people working with mail systems that have more secure routing methods (it's not so insanely easy to forge a mail header) but their systems have to be reverse-compatible with the older method. Since there's no big advantage yet, there's not as much pressure to upgrade.
It seems like much of the problem with this story, and with the spam/popup/malware issue, has to do with control not being equal to ownership. I paid for this machine, but I only get to control the machine somewhat.
I wish there was a way to have a secure online identity without also inviting a host of other, more controversial measures thrown in, like DRM and trusted computing. But bits that make money are always going to want to flood out bits that simply convey a human emotion. (like the ratio of junk mail to handwritten letters, I guess.)
When you copped to working for microsoft, I had to resist the urge to open up with all my other frustrations about the way computers are misused... and then I remembered my mom, who worked at the phone company and got no end of grief for it.
I'm sure if one single company ran the internet, it would treat spam as an expansive waste of resources and deal with it... but since it's a commons that's being degraded, some interests are more important than others.
Re: technical/social fixes
Date: 2007-02-16 05:28 pm (UTC)There are also people that are working on technical fixes of the sort that you describe (SenderID, e.g.) but the biggest problem with those is getting people to use them.
Control vs. ownership: not really sure what you're getting at there. You have as much control over the machine as you want, really. Operating system software is incredibly complex, though, and it's very easy for security holes to arise.
Secure online identities don't require DRM, trusted computing, etc; if anything it's the other way around. (Check out http://www.identityblog.com .) Personally I hope that the whole DRM thing implodes soon, as seems increasingly likely.
I'm actually very glad that the Internet is _not_ owned by a single company or organization.
ObReferenceToTheOriginalTopic: I should have said this before, but I agree with the general sentiment: this teacher, for whatever reason, is being punished for something that, it seems clear, is seriously not her fault. I can only hope that she wins on appeal, because this is a serious miscarriage of justice that she was even _charged_, much less convicted.
Bah!
Date: 2007-02-16 06:40 pm (UTC)If MS had put 1/10th the effort into basic security precautions that they've put into DRM, spam and botnets would be minor issues, not the huge global problem they've become.
Re: Bah!
Date: 2007-02-16 07:00 pm (UTC)* What do you mean by saying that MS "doesn't do anything about it"?
* IE is in fact now distributed with tougher security settings as of version 7.
* "Distribute security updates to all Windows computers, regardless of license": in what sense is it MS's responsibility to fix software that someone hasn't bought from them? Should car thieves be able to get warranty service? (I agree that some of their licensing agreements are overly restrictive. But that's a different matter.)
* "free, cross-platform digital signature": do you consider either SenderID or CardSpace to be relevant here?
* What does mail encryption have to do with any of this?
* MS has been involved in legal battles against spammers; check the news. As for outlawing it, there's already CAN-SPAM, but (as I said already) that only works in the absence of jurisdictional issues.
If you want to discuss this further, please email me at the address on my LJ userinfo page. I don't mind discussing it in a public forum, but Tom's LJ is not the place for it.
Re: Bah!
Date: 2007-02-17 06:07 pm (UTC)- IE 7 wouldn't even exist without competition from Firefox.
- It would cost MS little to provide security patches to all users of MS software and would enormously reduce the huge problem of malware.
- Reliable e-mail authentication and encryption would vastly reduce the scope and efficacy of e-mail scams, malware, and so on; if unauthenticated mail showed up with a great big "forged sender address" overlay it probably would not be much of a problem at all. It's not like such a system would be hard to implement; an international public key infrastructure could be built with a tiny investment. But such systems will only see wide adoption by non-commercial users if free and widely advertised; this is an area where MS could lead, but does not choose to.
There's a pattern here, and the pattern is that MS simply does not care about the public good; management only acts when revenue is involved. In no other industry would conduct so destructive be tolerated.
(no subject)
Date: 2007-02-15 07:21 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-02-15 07:31 pm (UTC)For fuck sake. This is bullshit. What kind of jury.. OMG. 40 years in prison. They'll just give her a suspended sentence, won't they? *prays*
I've never gambled in my life, online or in RL, and I got the endless popups for Golden Palace Casino once. Somebody lock me up before I read spam again!
(no subject)
Date: 2007-02-15 08:05 pm (UTC)One reason I've never been a big fan of sex offender registries is that they lump the predatory pedophile in with the college guys who got drunk and groped someone's boobs at a party. No taking of circumstances into account.
(no subject)
Date: 2007-02-15 08:11 pm (UTC)[/major snark]
I've always hated the sex offender registry anyway. If the offender has paid his or her debt to society, that should be it. If you think there's gonna be a problem anyway, then [a] DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT rather than let him or her out and [b] your rehab program needs work.
(no subject)
Date: 2007-02-15 08:34 pm (UTC)Amen on that. I would rather be able to look up past breaking & entering cases and see if those past criminals are living near me. But, when the system has said you paid your debt to society, that should be it.
the technology
Date: 2007-02-15 08:38 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-02-15 08:20 pm (UTC)http://www.alternet.org/story/46925/
http://majikthise.typepad.com/majikthise_/julie_amero/index.html
http://julieamer.blogspot.com/2007/02/contribute-to-julie.html
(no subject)
Date: 2007-02-15 08:32 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-02-16 06:32 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-02-15 09:05 pm (UTC)Tech Savvy judges would be nice too.
(no subject)
Date: 2007-02-15 10:31 pm (UTC)A jury made up of people who run networks and do desktop support would laugh this case out of court.
Speaking as a network admin who has both helped fire people for looking at porn at work and kept people from being fired by showing that the files on a given system could have been placed there by any number of people this is just ... just ... sorry, I don't have the gift to put it into words.
Unfortunately any time you say "porn" and "children" in the same sentence people get really sensitive. Not without good reason in some cases, but it causes overreactions.
I've cleaned up a machine for a friend after her (now-ex) husband was tossed in jail for child molestation. The police looked at everything but left his garbage behind on the computer when they gave it back to her. Yeah, that's all she needs is for her daughter (the victim) to find some of that crap later on. This guy is going to get out of jail in a couple of years (he's been quite the angel behind bars) and this lady is going to be on the same registry as he is. FFS what's wrong with this picture?
(no subject)
Date: 2007-02-16 04:31 am (UTC)I hope you don't mind, but i am going to copy and paste this to my livejournal as well. being a teacher assistant and heavy computer user myself, i want to get word out of this and make a stink about it myself. i don't want to see my career go up in smoke before i even have my bachelor's finished! i agree - i, too, have words for this, but being an example for middle school students myself, i will restrain myself from saying them...
(besides, it might get me the death penalty if i did...)
(no subject)
Date: 2007-02-16 08:27 am (UTC)http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/
He taught for 30 years and quit after finding out that our schools aren't there to teach, but to make a compliant comsumer class... I purchased a trio of books from him - "The Underground History of American Education", "A Different Kind of Teacher", and "Dumbing Us Down". Best $50 I ever spent. I'm going to homeschool my grandchildren, that's fordarnsure.
Another case that's just as messed up, look up Sydney McGee, and how she got in trouble last October... for having an APPROVED field trip for her ART class to an ART museum, in which a parent type inadvertantly saw a nude sculpture, and so they fired her...
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/30/education/30teacher.html?ei=5090&en=72efd1846b3947bd&ex=1317268800
But at least we CAN homeschool in this country, unlike in Germany, where we got our system of schools from (as per Gatto)... Check out this story of a girl who fell behind in school so her parents homeschooled her (illegal there), she was taken from home by armed police and put in a mental institution for "School Phobia".
http://www.netzwerk-bildungsfreiheit.de/html/pe_erlangen_en.html
/sigh
(no subject)
Date: 2007-02-16 06:35 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2007-02-16 11:06 pm (UTC)