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Date: 2007-03-29 12:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redaxe.livejournal.com
Gah. Just, gah. Shoot them and put them out of our misery. (Before they breed, please. Just in case their stupidity really is genetic. :-\

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Date: 2007-03-29 12:52 pm (UTC)
ext_32976: (Default)
From: [identity profile] twfarlan.livejournal.com
... Okay, who the hell let these imbeciles out of the mental ward with a video camera?

There is too much wrong with this for me to even begin tearing it apart. There is just too much stupidity at work in this video. The sheer LACK of understanding of the natural mechanisms that brought about the first self-replicating protein strands on this planet is only serving to remind me of why I'm glad I left behind this religion of intentional idiocy.

I KNOW there are scientists out there who are Christian and yet can manage to get behind the truth of evolution without any fears about it ruining their faith. I wish we'd hear more from those scientists, that they'd stand up and say rather loudly in response to videos like this, "You people don't get this at all, and you're only making yourselves and our religion look foolish. Shut the hell up before you kill our religion."

Personally, I like the quote

Date: 2007-03-29 01:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] capplor.livejournal.com
"Don't you DARE tell God what he can't do!"

It was originally in reference to Einstein's objections to Heisenberg's uncertainty principal, but it works just as well here.

Re: Personally, I like the quote

Date: 2007-03-29 03:32 pm (UTC)
ext_32976: (Default)
From: [identity profile] twfarlan.livejournal.com
That is a good one, yes. Personally, the idea of God playing dice with the universe mostly makes me think of the horrifying possibilities... and how much sense it would make... if we were but miniatures in a cosmic game of Dungeons and Dragons.

Makes me think of this.

Re: Personally, I like the quote

Date: 2007-03-30 05:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vettecat.livejournal.com
I was going to say that!

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Date: 2007-03-29 10:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nightmarewriter.livejournal.com
/Raises hand. I'm one...

I believe that God could set off the big bang and the whole history of the universe, with the stars and planets coalescing, and life forming on Earth, and evolving, and *know* that it would turn into us. It's just a little more of a long view than the forming from dust and a rib story, and fits the text better: as in, where did Caine's wife come from? =)

I understand that God may have innerently conveyed the content of the bible, but the writers had to filter it through their understandings and cultural notions in order to write it down. Anyone who's written anything knows there's a million ways to describe a thing.

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Date: 2007-03-29 01:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wormquartet.livejournal.com
The progress bar as this video proceeded quickly became a rather accurate headache meter.

Oh my fucking gawd.

Right from the beginning..."Despite the obvious truth" that an all-powerful invisible man from the sky decided to make himself some obedient friends out of thin air....okay, lady, what's your definition of the word "obvious?"

-=ShoEboX=-

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Date: 2007-03-29 01:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smallship1.livejournal.com
Well, the guy was right about one thing. I'm never going to forget that. Much though I may wish I could.

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Date: 2007-03-29 01:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] admnaismith.livejournal.com
For God's sake, put that away before George Bush sees it and appoints them to be Secretary of Science!

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Date: 2007-03-29 02:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cjfringe.livejournal.com
Ow ow ow my head!
There's so much wrong with that I can't even begin.
I wonder if this was filmed before the giant peanut butter recall we just had. Maybe that was from evolution, not contamination, huh?

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Date: 2007-03-29 02:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wildcard9.livejournal.com
You know, it is possible to reconcile creationism with evolution. "Let there be light" was the Big Bang, the 7 ages/eras of creation (it is NOT days, that is a mis-translation, as happened a LOT in those times of oral to badly copied written-by-hand transcriptions and multiple language mutations) was evolution in progress.

And we all know that the dinosaurs used to live in the Garden of Eden, so when God destroyed it with that large meteorite, it caused the dinosaurs to die out. Although I still say it was just a foul ball in a cosmic game of baseball that broke Earth's "window" and not an intentional event :-)

Plus these people can not separate the biblical history from the parables (the fictional stories in the bible that teach a moral lesson) that make up most of Genesis.

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Date: 2007-03-29 10:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] capt-video.livejournal.com
"that is a mis-translation, as happened a LOT in those times of oral to badly copied written-by-hand transcriptions and multiple language mutations"

Somewhere out there is a book that "proves" that the Bible is Truth by explaining that there are no mistakes in the transcription because monks only copied shapes, not actual letters or words, being illiterate. I have thankfully blotted out the title of this piece of crap, but it was touted as a way for "thinking Christians" to "prove" the truth of Christianity.

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Date: 2007-03-29 02:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] louisadkins.livejournal.com
... so what you are saying is that every time I eat a Peanut Butter sandwich I'm potentially killing off new life form(s)?

W00t!

I'd like to know, have they tried converting/saving the PB? If they did, could the second coming be in the form of PB? I seem to remember a line about "partake of the body" or some-such...

((This snark was brought to you by the letter Sleepy and the number Not-Awake))

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Date: 2007-03-29 02:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] filkertom.livejournal.com
"This is my bread... this is my jelly...."

Great. Now I feel dirty.

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Date: 2007-03-29 10:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] louisadkins.livejournal.com
In the name of the Creamy, the Roast, and the Extra-Fine Nut, Praise Jam!

Sorry, I just can't seem to stop poking at this one..

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Date: 2007-03-29 03:33 pm (UTC)
ext_32976: (Default)
From: [identity profile] twfarlan.livejournal.com
Oh for... great. "I am Galactus. Eater of Sandwiches."

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Date: 2007-03-30 05:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tony-goldmark.livejournal.com
Well, the PB in PBMax doesn't stand for penguin blackbelt...

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Date: 2007-03-29 03:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darthparadox.livejournal.com
Putting aside for one moment all of the snark I have built up for these imbeciles, let's actually consider their claims under a scientific framework.

Evolution states that, at some point in the history of the Earth, under certain conditions - conditions, by the way, that we've been able to reproduce on a limited scale in the laboratory - organisms that we've called "life" can be created from non-living material with a sufficient input of energy.

The zealots in the video claim that the fact that life does not arise when the conditions are "a jar of peanut butter on a shelf" and the energy input is "ambient light" disproves the above theory. And that's just wrong, from a straight logic standpoint. Evolution's theory is "there exists conditions X such that the application of energy Y, applied to non-living matter Z, produces life". To disprove that statement, it is not sufficient to show that one instance of (X,Y,Z) does not produce life. You need to show (or, more likely, prove by construction) that no instance of (X,Y,Z) produces life.

By the way, those conditions that I mentioned we've reproduced on a small scale? That would be the Miller-Urey experiment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller-Urey_experiment). We haven't managed to produce actual life yet, but we've used processes analogous to those found in nature to create amino acids. Those combine to form proteins, some of the most complex molecules in our bodies. The nucleic acids of DNA have also been formed in similar experiments.

Anyway, I think I've sufficiently made my point. Their sneering attempts to "disprove" a fundamental scientific theory remind me of a humorous response to Carl Sagan's work - "How do you know there are billions and billions of start? Have you ever counted them?" - and are ultimately just as worthless.

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Date: 2007-03-29 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erinwrites.livejournal.com
Oh, my...

I have no words.

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Date: 2007-03-29 03:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] huskiebear.livejournal.com
I choose to believe, for the sake of my emotional well-being and the future of the human race, that this is satire. That's my decision and and I'm sticking with it. :P

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Date: 2007-03-29 03:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizard-sf.livejournal.com
I think I actually got stupider watching that.

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Date: 2007-03-29 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] salkryn.livejournal.com
My friend [profile] jokermage pointed this one out to me yesterday. It amazes me how stupid the fundies can be.

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Date: 2007-03-29 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beldar.livejournal.com
The disproving of sponteneous generation is an established part of science, and accepted for centuries. In fact, what the "peanut butter experiment" proves used to be seen as a challenge to the Church, casting various something-from-nothing miracles, or even biblical Creation itself, into doubt.

This video is about as enlightening as Ann Elk's Theory on the brontosaurus, yet some people are going to buy this at face value. ~grumble~

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Date: 2007-03-29 04:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erinwrites.livejournal.com
Ha! I love that icon. :)

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Date: 2007-03-29 07:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beldar.livejournal.com
Was passed on to me by my significant other. Not sure where she got it.
(This one was a photo I took -- not photoshopped, believeitornot)

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Date: 2007-03-29 05:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fantasyjax.livejournal.com
... yeah. Memo: We kinda disproved the theory of maggots "just appearing" in rot back when you morons believed it.

This video makes the entire internet dumber.

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Date: 2007-03-29 05:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dornbeast.livejournal.com
My icon says all that the creators of that video need to hear.

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Date: 2007-03-29 06:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unclelumpy.livejournal.com
The Illuminutty are NOT amused!

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Date: 2007-03-29 09:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] foenix.livejournal.com
So, God is spending his days making sure that new life isn't being accidentally created in our food supplies? Did I get that right?

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Date: 2007-03-29 11:06 pm (UTC)
ext_74: Baron Samadai in cat form (MSU Local 42)
From: [identity profile] siliconshaman.livejournal.com
You know... now I kinda want to go get a jar of Pb and try nuking it in various ways to see if I can get it to evolve something... just to piss them off.

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Date: 2007-03-30 12:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violinsontv.livejournal.com
I am a Christian. I buy lots of peanut butter.

I assure you all, these are the only things I have in common with these people.

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Date: 2007-03-30 02:15 am (UTC)
batyatoon: (compulsive rhyming)
From: [personal profile] batyatoon
Now I want to send the makers of this video a bunch of peanut butter jars with the coiled-up snake thing that leaps out at you when you open it.

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Date: 2007-03-30 05:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tony-goldmark.livejournal.com
PULL!

(throws fucking Bible up in the air to shoot at. Motherfucker. Go to Detroit cause there ain't no hell).

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Date: 2007-03-30 07:47 am (UTC)
jenrose: (stinky)
From: [personal profile] jenrose
*can't* *breathe*
*laughing too hard*

I had to stop watching when I realized i was waiting for the Little Blue Man to pop out and say, "Hey, put that back!"

*snickers*

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Date: 2007-03-30 11:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seanmonster.livejournal.com
Wait-a-minute...

I thought bananas disproved evolution. The Peanut Butter Fundies and the Banana Fundies should hook up and let their ideas evolve into a peanut butter and 'nana sammich.

Or would that be an Intelligently Designed sammich?

CLAP YOUR HANDS!

Date: 2007-03-31 05:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lemmozine.livejournal.com
I KNEW those Peter Pan commercials had religious undertones. I DO believe in Peanut Butter. I DO believe in Peanut Butter.

If I clap my hands for Peter Pan, will Skippy burn forever in hell?

Datsun Saves!

Domino's Pizza Delivers!

Holy crap!

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Date: 2007-04-04 11:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] avt-tor.livejournal.com
I have to wonder how many peanut butter jars have spontaneous discharges of lightning inside.

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