This, ha ha, ties in with the last post.
I have a number of promotional pages at various online venues. I'm trying not to go overboard, partly because I'm trying not to just whore myself hither and yon across the internet and partly because it's a real time-sink to maintain all those pages. But the truth is, the only way this is going to continue to work is if I hype myself some. Finding the balance is the key, I think.
Besides my own pages (tomsmithonline.com, filkertom-itom.blogspot.com) and this LJ, I've got pages at:
So, my questions are: Does this seem reasonable? Am I going too far? Not far enough? Am I missing something really big or important?
I have a number of promotional pages at various online venues. I'm trying not to go overboard, partly because I'm trying not to just whore myself hither and yon across the internet and partly because it's a real time-sink to maintain all those pages. But the truth is, the only way this is going to continue to work is if I hype myself some. Finding the balance is the key, I think.
Besides my own pages (tomsmithonline.com, filkertom-itom.blogspot.com) and this LJ, I've got pages at:
- MySpace
- The FuMP
- Podsafe Music Network
- last.fm
- Sonic Garden (not up to date, but that's for later this week)
- a couple of albums on CD Baby, which have in turn got me some decent digital distribution over which I personally have no control. It's an on-off switch -- either it's up there, but I can't add new tunes or edit the info or tweak the page, or it's not there at all
- Eventful -- I'm just setting that up, and soon you'll be able to Demand me if you want to ;)
So, my questions are: Does this seem reasonable? Am I going too far? Not far enough? Am I missing something really big or important?
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Date: 2007-06-11 08:04 pm (UTC)Use keywords like "Dr Demento", "filk", "indy", and the usual fannish/SF types of words. Set yourself up an "About Me" page that can have a link to tonsmithonline.com. If you'd like any further eBaying details, I'd be happy to help out. ;]
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Date: 2007-06-11 09:18 pm (UTC)I am constantly bitching to the guys at RiffTrax about how little Mike uses his myspace page.
In Mikes case you have a almost 4000 people who are interested in him, these are people who are interested in what he is up to. It would take 5 minutes every 2 weeks to post a bulliten saying "Hey folks, this week we did Grey's Anatomy, I hope you guys enjoy it". I would bet money that plenty of those 4000 people are not on the rifftrax forums, LJ, or their email list, how many sales do you need to make the 5 minutes worth it 5,15?
People need regular reminders to check things out, "oh, rifftrax, yeah what have they done in the last few months", "Oh Tom Smith, new song at that FuMP place, lets check it out"
lol, but I am sure you know all this, I think I am just venting my frustrations that the legend films/rifftrax guys sometimes skip some of the most obvious places to inform people of their product.
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Date: 2007-06-12 12:46 am (UTC)Thank you! I have tried to tell Tom that, too! :Þ
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Date: 2007-06-12 04:37 pm (UTC)Even doing this with some of your already existing songs could be helpful. For example, you could send the cat macros video link to places like cuteoverload.com. Or send some of your more political songs to the political blogs.
As someone else pointed out your music covers a lot of ground and deserved wider play. :-)
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Date: 2007-06-12 06:37 pm (UTC)This week's song may end up being a good deal more political, and honestly more nasty, than anything I've written in a long while. And I will certainly diary it up at dKos if it does end up that way.
While I am always going to be a filker -- I used to think of it as a burden, but I've come back the other way -- what I am primarily is that odd catchall, "singer-songwriter". The biggest difference between the vast majority of them out there and guys like me is that I will write about whatever strikes my fancy, with a little bit of reasonable self-editing to keep from being too offensive... and every once in a while I'll even overcome that urge. (I'm working on one for The FuMP that should blow every circuit for blocks, and it's going to very, very deliberately not have a single profanity or scatological reference in it... but it'll make Oscar Brand's "The Clean Song" look like a straightforward narrative of a fishing expedition.)
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Date: 2007-06-13 06:24 am (UTC)Definitely hit last.fm harder. I believe that rising on their charts *does* translate into real exposure (to the extent that some bands hire people to play their music through the appropriate monitoring software). As far as I can tell, there's no downside to uploading pretty much everything you can for play on their radio. (I'm pretty sure that you *don't* have to allow free download -- it'll just end up in the same sort of randomized play algorithm that other internet radio stations do, but it'll specifically be targeted to people who like the right style of music. It certainly already knows that you're a lot like TMBG, Arrogant Worms, Weird Al, etc. -- it just hasn't had much chance to play your songs at people.)
Perhaps consider selling your studio albums directly through eMusic as well as CD-Baby. It's more of a "long tail" sales model than some of the others, and claimed in the past to be pretty artist friendly on the payments. Don't know if they were telling the truth on that. Again, it has some nice collaborative-filtering "fans of XXX also like YYY".
MySpace, FuMP and Podsafe seem like great ideas, but I don't have much to say about how to use 'em.
My experience with Project Wonderful is that you can get a moderate number of click-throughs for literally pennys-per. With my particular product (T-shirts) the click-throughs didn't gain me anything, but you've got a more compelling product. Certainly crossover advertising between superhero web-comics and TLHoE is too obvious and compelling *not* to try.
I assume you're being proactive and sending a copy of every new album to Demento? You've got enough cred by now that you should rise to the top of the slushpile there.
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Date: 2007-06-13 11:30 am (UTC)Project Wonderful seems like a good idea for me because of Last Hero. They do a lot of stuff with online comics, and that's a good one to sneak in.
And I do send stuff to Dr. D. But I don't worry as much about play there as I used to. Besides the fact that he does more themed shows now and I don't necessarily fit in with the themes, and I never got all that much play there to begin with, and if I was really worried about how that audience would receive me I probably would've given up music entirely in 1991... a lot of what I'm writing these days just doesn't fit there. I'm not as over-the-top as it seems you need to be for the current market. Although there are a couple of FuMP songs I'm working on that should crank things up a notch.... ;)