New IRON MAN 2 Trailer

[filkertom]

If you are an old-time Iron Man fan, I think you will absolutely love the bit at the end. I damn sure did.

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[redaxe.livejournal.com]

Except for despising Tony Stark, this looks fine. (I disliked Stark well before Civil War, but that iced his rep forever in my heart. He'd have to kill and barbecue Galactus, without his suit, so that the hungry could eat to begin to reform his image.) Second best Iron Man music ever (and shocked, shocked that they got around to it in only the second movie!) (the best was the Hembeck one-off that parodied the Spider-Man theme, in print).

[the-s-guy.livejournal.com]

I like Tony as a different take on the superhero mythos. He's not in it to Do Good, he's not in it because he was driven to it by a Dark Past, and it's not because If Not Him, Then Who?. He's in it because damn, it's fun.

And yeah, he's been portrayed as various kinds of dick. Movie Tony, though, is just in it for the lulz and the techporn, and it's just something he does for fun when he's not being a supersuccessful playboy billionaire.

Plus, there's something to be said for not having a secret identity (in the movie version, so far, anyway). Secret identities have been done to DEATH. Sure, they're a way to crank up the drama a little bit, but it's nice to see a superhero who has a life within normal society AND everyone knows he's the guy in the mask. If anything, it even provides additional tension because he can't do something reprehensible in his hero identity and have no consequences for it when he's in his civvies.

It's nice to see superheroing treated as something more akin to the Army Reserve than a life-consuming Calling.

[alverant.livejournal.com]

The problem with the public identity is always having to have the suit around just in case someone tries to make a name for himself. But you're right, it is nice to see a a hero who's motivation is something beyond "with power comes responsibility". Nothing wrong with that, it's just good to have variety.

It's an issue I'm wrestling with in the superhero RPG campaign I'm in. My character's secret ID has been exposed and I have to decide whether to try and cover it up or do the "I am Iron Man" bit. Stark is a billionare who can afford protection. My guy isn't. He's a gambling thrill seeker in a suit of armor cobbled together from a half dozen sources.

[ldyerzsie.livejournal.com]

The whole "secret identity" thing is as much to protect loved ones as yourself. If your character has no one else to protect, why not do the "I am Iron Man" bit?

[alverant.livejournal.com]

I'm considering it. But he wants to be able to go off the clock and avoid the life of a celebrity. Plus he makes his living as a gambler and even though he can't use his powers to cheat, someone is going to use that as an excuse to make his life miserable. And his uncle IS a superhero currently MIA (my original character in this campaign and greatly under appreciated).

[arensb.livejournal.com]

In this case, at least, I think Tony Stark can afford to hire a flunky to carry the suit around for him. The "iron football", if you will.

Granted, for someone like Peter Parker or Clark Kent, it's a different story. Yeah, the spidey-costume is light enough that he can wear it under his regular clothes. Unless he wants to wear shorts and sandals to the beach.

[alverant.livejournal.com]

Isn't that what we saw in the preview, a mini-Iron Man suit in a suitcase?

[arensb.livejournal.com]

Exactly. But presumably Tony Stark is too busy being dashing and rich and whatnot to actually carry that suitcase with him all the time. He has a flunky carry it for him.

[dornbeast.livejournal.com]

"Second best Iron Man music ever (and shocked, shocked that they got around to it in only the second movie!)"

What, the Black Sabbath tune?

[per_solo]

Old school awesome...I actually was laughing and enjoying JUST the trailer...cannot wait for the movie to arrive. :-)

Thanks for this.

[shadowcat48li.livejournal.com]

the What If parody issue[#34?] where Iron Man had an oveeating problem instead of being an alcoholic

[banjoplayinnerd.livejournal.com]

YeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeahIwannaseethis

[the-s-guy.livejournal.com]

Briefcase-suit homage!

And I actually laughed when I realised all the dancing girls behind Tony on stage were wearing little chest-reactor glowballs. :)

[eleri.livejournal.com]

oh, SQUEE

[markbernstein.livejournal.com]

Hmmm . . . It's a cool trailer, for sure. So I went to IMDB to check creative credits, since those tend to matter a lot. Director is still Favreau - good. The first Iron Man movie was written by the two guys who wrote "Children of Men", a fairly dark SF movie. This one is written by Justin Theroux, who wrote "Tropic Thunder". Does that mean they're going to up the humor quotient? That's not necessarily bad. And while I never saw "Tropic Thunder", it did get good reviews.

[ladystarblade.livejournal.com]

I highly recommend "Tropic Thunder"...while it goes wayyy over the top...it's funny for just that reason. RDJ is awesome in it, and the first 10min had me in near tearful hysterics.

[ldyerzsie.livejournal.com]

Oh by all means go and rent it. It is way funnier than it should be.

Kirk Lazarus: I know what dude I am. I'm the dude playin' the dude, disguised as another dude!

[ladystarblade.livejournal.com]

This is the IM2 trailer. This is me. This is me squealing over the IM2 trailer.

And I had absolutely no knowledge of Iron Man before the first movie.

[unclelumpy.livejournal.com]

Remember kids, billionaire CEO industrialists know better than the people YOU helped elect. But that's okay, thanks to BRAIN-DEAD Supreme Court decisions, they probably OWN your elected officials already.

I swear Steve "I Want To Feel Ayn Rand Inside Me" Ditko ejaculated when he came up with Iron Man!

[dornbeast.livejournal.com]

That sounds about right, except for the part where Steve Ditko didn't create Iron Man.

[unclelumpy.livejournal.com]

Might as well have.

[gridlore.livejournal.com]

Remember kids, your hard work and investment can be seized with no due process by the government if they feel it necessary! Trust the Congress, after all they have absolutely perfect records of ethical and selfless behavior!

Iron Man was created in 1963 by Stan Lee, Larry Lieber, Don Heck, and Jack Kirby. Steve Dikto co-created Spider-Man

[alverant.livejournal.com]

Yep, that's why corporations should be allowed to own nukes and other dangerous weapons. Because it's their money and they can do what they want even if it endangers your life. Remember, they really do care about you. They know better and have great lawyers to avoid responsibility.

[skully01.livejournal.com]

With great lawyer comes no responsibility?

[gridlore.livejournal.com]

Congress is made up of lawyers, hires lawyers to supervise other lawyers, and is the world champion at ducking responsibility.

Let me put it this way. Who do I trust more: Ford Motor Company or Congress?

Ford Motor needs to keep me happy. They need to make money by producing products people will buy. They have to meet a budget. They are directly accountable to their shareholders. If I don't get a good product or good service, my money goes elsewhere.

Congress doesn't need me. They take my money because they have a law saying they can take my money. Out of 535 Congress-critters, only three theoretically care about my needs. I have no options to change.

I trust Ford a lot more than I trust my government.

[ldyerzsie.livejournal.com]

Oh, they do care. After all, we are all dollar bills to them. They WILL protect their bottom line.

[unclelumpy.livejournal.com]

Fine, then stop bailing the fuckers out!

And legal hearing = due process, numbnuts!

[gridlore.livejournal.com]

The Fifth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America:

"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."

A Senate hearing is not due process, and Tony Stark is perfectly free to set the value of the Iron Man armor as high as he wants.

[alverant.livejournal.com]

So how far do you extend "public danger"? Stark isn't exactly a paragon of virtue. First time he's flying while intoxicated and boom, it's time to lock away the suit.

[gridlore.livejournal.com]

OK, what section and title of US Code applies to the operation of flying powered armor? Where are the codes that spell out the legal requirements for a charge of Operating Armor Under the Influence and defining the punishments?

Here's a clue. You can get several DUI convictions and the state still cannot seize your car. You can be convicted of misdemeanor battery and the state cannot touch your guns. These things are governed by laws, and the US Senate can ask Tony Stark to turn over the armor, but they cannot compel him to do anything. Even an attempt to legally force him to turn over the armor would probably fail, since it would run afoul of Article I, Section 9 of the Constitution. Unless, of course, Congress passed a law allowing the government to seize *any* technological innovation without a warrant or compensation. Cue the collapse of the US economy as every single industry in the world closes up their US shops the next day.

[alverant.livejournal.com]

Great trailer! Looks like it's going to be a fun movie. I think the new Jim Rodes is better.

[ypawtows.livejournal.com]

Rock! \m/

[tomreedtoon.livejournal.com]

I guess it was inevitable that someone would bring up the megacorporations in a discussion about Iron Man, especially since Tony Stark always was - and still is - the most right-wing of the classic Marvel characters.

Still...I think that this phrase of IM, playing rock star, might be setting him up for the major plot twist of Stark's career, his alcoholism. I can see him drinking himself into oblivion in the third film, and Rhodey as War Machine has to take him on.

[hitchkitty.livejournal.com]

Considering that we rarely saw Tony in the first film without a drink in his hand, I suspect that his tendency to crawl into the bottle will indeed be a plot point in the new film.