Doctor Who Spoiler Thread

[filkertom]

EXTERMINATE!

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[archiver-tim.livejournal.com]

Daleks in colour! Collect them all. Let's see if I can name them all:
Supreme Dalek
Soldier Dalek
Tactial Smurf
Eternal Smurf
Oh, I know there is more.

Fun aside, I was wondering if it would be the original Captain Jack Harkness that would be one of the two spitfire pilots that did not return.

Good episode. Good use of British icons and their defineing moments.

[his-spiffyness.livejournal.com]

While everyone is taking note of the Daleks, I'm wondering about the crack.

In this episode, it was relatively small. No more than a foot or so long, in The Eleventh Hour it was a couple feet long, and in The Beast Below, it was miles long. I wonder if it's growth through time is somehow significant.

[louisadkins.livejournal.com]

I must have missed it, in "The Beast Below" - where was it?

[his-spiffyness.livejournal.com]

At the very end, on the side of Starship UK

[fiawol.livejournal.com]

I think the only significant portion of it is that it IS spread through time and space, not necessarily the size of it. Like any plot device, it will change to be noticable in the size of the thing that we see it on, whether it's a child's wall or the side of a spaceship.
While I kind of like the idea of an overall season story arc, just at the moment it seems like it's "Bad Wolf" all over again, slipping the name (or in this cale the crack) someplace into the storyline just to have it there. I AM looking forward both to River Song and the Weeping Angels returning next episode. The former I was afraid they were just going to ignore with the change of the writing team, the latter I expected to just be a single episode villian, albeit one of the SCARIEST television monsters ever!

[redneckgaijin.livejournal.com]

I only saw the first Matt Smith episode last night, on BBC America.

I really like the new companion- a LOT.

My inner jury is still out on Matt Smith. In the first episode he seems about two-thirds Tennant and one-third Tom Baker.

The episode itself: meh. Nice and exciting, but had quite a few Fridge Logic moments in it. Particularly Steve, or whatever his name was with the laptop. It's nice that he gets to take credit for saving the world, etc. but why would the Doctor need him to cover for him? Is there some reason the Doctor doesn't want to bring UNIT into this- since we know they're still around and functional? (Besides, of course, Moffatt not wanting to use UNIT because it might make things too easy for this Doctor's first outing- in which case, sloppy writing still.)

I'll be watching the eps as they hit BBC America (which means I'll miss next week's, as I'll be out of town).

[filkertom.livejournal.com]

I have a lot of the same reactions and observations. My biggest thing right now is that, while Matt is turning out to be a pretty good Doctor, episodes 2 and 3 themselves seem... rushed. Not necessarily in the resolution of the stories... but I think I'd have been happier if they were later in the season. Give us a chance to get to know this Doctor before bringing in the heavy stuff.

[redaxe.livejournal.com]

Daleks by Dior. Feh.

The ep was pretty good right up until the climax. I simply could not buy the solution to the exploding android problem. "Think human, don't explode"? Gah!

I mean, even Donna pre-metacrisis could have worked out a better, if more complex solution (e.g., android into TARDIS, TARDIS into space -- preferably into Dalek ship, or perhaps into its projected path, eject android, scram!) that wouldn't have just been the writers throwing up their hands, weeping that they'd written themselves into a corner, saying "wooji-wooji-woo!" and making it all work out fine.

For that matter, why was it so important for the android to survive? One of the important things about Who for many years was that, along the way, people die. Not always, and sometimes consequences can be avoided. But it appears as if Moffat et al. are working hard not to allow any significant consequences, and that totally dilutes what they're working for.

Maybe they can learn that lesson in time for ep 4. They'd better NOT screw up the River Song plot.

[filkertom.livejournal.com]

Logically, yeah, the talking-the-bomb-out-of-exploding makes no sense. It does, however, feel Whovian. I admit that, while I am not thrilled with it, it feels more right than the Doctor somehow getting the bomb onto the Dalek ship, if only because, no matter how many times he says it, he has real trouble with wiping out the Dalek species.

Why is it so important for the android to survive? Something in this season's arc, obviously. And the fact that it IS so obvious is a problem.

Damn skippy on the River Song plot. I really wish they'd done that with Tennant, but we'll see.

[sarekofvulcan.livejournal.com]

Think about the episodes Moffat wrote before taking over (even including "The Curse of Fatal Death", come to think of it). What was the approximate body count? ("Everybody lives, Rose!")

This should not be coming as any kind of surprise. :-)

[wildcard9.livejournal.com]

The new Dalek menace, I think this needed to be early in the season while the Doctor was still new. Hitting him with a major heavy before he is ready for it. The fact that Amy does not remember the Dalek invasion from the previous season, that sounds like a big plot point to me, so I expect the Daleks will be back (and didn't we see Davros in the previews at the end of episode 1 this season?)

As for the android, I agree there were better solutions. The most obvious one being to use the TARDIS to move him into space or onto the Dalek's ship. However, he thought he was human so the Doctor wanted to give him a chance to live, that I can understand. Small errors when he was moving his black gloved "stuffed" hand at the end, but it is hard for the actor to hold a hand absolutely steady like it was called for.

[skunktaur.livejournal.com]

The power-ranger Daleks had me sniggering a moment or two. (Red Ranger Dalek! EXTERMINATE!)

I find the 'talking the android into not exploding' a rather important point for the episode. Do notice that the Doctor was making the professor focus on the negative spectrum of human emotions; the pain of loss of loved ones and such. It took Amy to swing that one around into a more positive view.
Just as in the 'Beast Below' the Doctor was all to ready to accept another loss. He couldn't even see that at least saving Earth was a victory over the Daleks' doublecross.

The mad man with a box may be a little forced mad, because if he's made to stop and think he's going to drift too much towards the things he couldn't than the things he can.

[doctorpinkerton.livejournal.com]

Silly but fun episode... filled with caricatures. Pity about the 45 minute length! It's just not enough to get into any real depth, but fun, nevertheless.

The title really was correct in the end, wasn't it?