Oy

Sep. 1st, 2008 09:58 pm
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AmericaBlog links to a CNN interview that is simply astonishing:

So now Palin has "command military experience". And lots and lots of foreign policy experience. Not that this nit could name a single example of it.

Do these jerks have any idea how stupid they sound when they say this shit? Do they take pride in it, in sounding like complete daft morons and still thinking they've put one over on us?

Have they put one over on us?

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Date: 2008-09-02 02:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grimmbear.livejournal.com
My god. He came off as a complete feminine cleansing product and the bag it came in.

Not to disparage feminine cleansing products.

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Date: 2008-09-02 04:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madrona.livejournal.com
Disparage all you like. They're actually not very good for feminine health.

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Date: 2008-09-02 02:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] randwolf.livejournal.com
She's apparently the NRA candidate. I think we're in trouble.

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Date: 2008-09-02 02:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lemmozine.livejournal.com
Where is the liberal press I hear so much about, and a couple of slices of bread for all the phony baloney the McCain campaign is serving?

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Date: 2008-09-02 03:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gypsylady.livejournal.com
And in the end she gave it to him? WTF?????

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Date: 2008-09-02 06:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] packy.livejournal.com
They were out of time. She needed to wrap up. But the expression on her face speaks volumes.

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Date: 2008-09-02 03:36 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] danceswithlife
I just heard BBC America interview the female, Republican governor of Hawaii, who says she is a good friend of the Palin family. Governor Palin is the "CEO" of Alaska and was the CEO of the city she used to be major of, and Biden and Obama have never run anything, since work in the senate is cooperative. They don't have the ability to organize and oversee like she does. And her 17 year old pregnant daughter simply gives her the same experience so many other American families have had, and so brings her closer to them and makes them understand them more.

I think she will be the candidate until after the debates--giving Biden a chance to lose it and be seen as abusing the female candidate. Then she will realize that family obligations require that she regretfully step down, and the male candidate they really want will step in.

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Date: 2008-09-02 03:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fredhuggins.livejournal.com
"And her 17 year old pregnant daughter simply gives her the same experience so many other American families have had"

I didn't know Juno was from Juneau. (ba dum bum)

"giving Biden a chance to lose it and be seen as abusing the female candidate"

Are you saying what I think you're saying? That running logical rings around Palin might make a fucking VP CANDIDATE cry, and inspire PITY VOTES like on American Idol?!?

I wonder what the weather's like in Canada...

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Date: 2008-09-02 04:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] admnaismith.livejournal.com
Yup. Pity votes.

She'll say something like "Columbus discovered bread", and Biden will point out that she's wrong, and she will burst into tears and pound on his chest with her little fists while crying "You BRUTE, you! You're no gentleman!" And the media will all say, "Fie! Fie on Biden the Cad, treating a lady like that!"

It will be SUCH a victory for feminism, having her on the ticket.

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Date: 2008-09-02 04:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madrona.livejournal.com
And then he will be beaten up by Vikings.

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Date: 2008-09-02 04:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] palenoue.livejournal.com
Female vikings!

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Date: 2008-09-02 04:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] admnaismith.livejournal.com

And bards.

They will sing "Fie on Biden, Fie", to the tune of "Fie on Goodness".


http://s144.photobucket.com/albums/r163/InsultComicDog/?action=view¤t=SarahPalinVikings.jpg

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Date: 2008-09-02 12:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] virginia-fell.livejournal.com
*cracks up* That is an amazing prediction.

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Date: 2008-09-02 01:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redaxe.livejournal.com
Or "the Pledge of Allegiance was good enough for the Founding Fathers and it's good enough for me"

Especially since the question was about those originally included words, "under God".

</sarcasm>

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Date: 2008-09-02 04:13 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] danceswithlife
I would say that one possibility is that all Palin has to do is be her usual idiotic self, not answer the questions, look sweet and pleasant and make Biden more and more exasperated until he snaps at her, or says something sarcastic and harsh. She doesn't even have to cry, just be quiet and indignant. I hope the people working with him are having him practice being indulgent and calm, and show her up by appearing presidential and smart. He has to let her make an idiot of herself (in comparison) without appearing inpatient or mean.

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Date: 2008-09-02 04:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fredhuggins.livejournal.com
Well, at least we can take comfort knowing that WE had the more charming VP last time, and it didn't help us a bit.

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Date: 2008-09-02 03:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fredhuggins.livejournal.com
As usual, Colbert said it best: "WHO THE FUCK IS SARAH PALIN?!" Also: "20 months as governor of Alaska may not seem like much, but when you adjust for how long the nights are up there, that's like 36 years in the Senate."

THIS pig's ass reminds me of a book report read by a third grader who never cracked the book.

And doesn't it seem just a LITTLE strange that some might actually base this election on who's spent more time working for a shapeless, overpaid "Killers For Hire" organization?

What surprises me is, I'm not surprised.

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Date: 2008-09-02 04:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] admnaismith.livejournal.com
Do these jerks have any idea how stupid they sound when they say this shit? Do they take pride in it, in sounding like complete daft morons and still thinking they've put one over on us?

They're just rooting for their team, right or wrong. It's like when the bottom ranked team in the PAC-10 has to play the top ranked team, and they explain to the press that they're going to win because...their tackles are leaner and meaner. Yeah, that's it.

They're just proud that they've thought of something good about Neocon Barbie that they can say without their faces instantly bursting into crimson blushes of shame. I almost don't blame them for being proud of that; it's quite an achievement.

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Date: 2008-09-02 04:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madrona.livejournal.com
The way they've managed to put one over on us is not by making us thing they're fit to govern or to report, but by hammering away at our standards.

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Date: 2008-09-02 05:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lemmozine.livejournal.com
Spin. All spin.

Speaking of spin, people are using my new word, "Palintology," as a tag for comments on the new VP candidate. I am so proud!

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Date: 2008-09-02 11:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] filkertom.livejournal.com
As of right now, so am I. Good 'un, BLC!

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Date: 2008-09-02 05:54 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] danceswithlife
Take a look at these:

http://eagleforumalaska.blogspot.com/2006/07/2006-gubernatorial-candidate.html
Answers she gave to a questionnaire when she was running for governor.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/31/palin-laughs-as-opponent_n_122776.html
Palin laughing with a man making cruel fun of another woman.

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Date: 2008-09-03 06:16 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] patoadam
The Eagle Forum Alaska web page was removed today. A copy from the Google cache is archived at http://www.webcitation.org/5aY59rbm5.

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Date: 2008-09-03 06:28 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] danceswithlife
I saw that in your journal, Alan. Pretty interesting, huh?

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Date: 2008-09-02 06:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] randwolf.livejournal.com
Just remember, she was a member of the Charging Moose Party; otherwise known as the Alaska Independence Party.

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Date: 2008-09-02 06:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baphnedia.livejournal.com
For my piece: "She has experience as a commander of the National Guard." Yes. So does every other person who's ever been a governor of any state in our lifetime. If that's the 'big qualifier' for her leadership experience, that means they had to do some real searching to find SOMETHING.

Speaking of experience, it's really not all that important. Nothing can prepare you to become the President. Abraham Lincoln didn't have experience, and put our country back together (after barely winning a civil war). His predecessor had over 20 years experience and let the country fall apart.

Of course though, such a realization might interfere with the news corps' ratings.

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Date: 2008-09-02 09:08 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] siliconshaman.livejournal.com
Scary thing is... there are probably voters who'll believe that crock.

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Date: 2008-09-02 10:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baphnedia.livejournal.com
And for that I blame a retarded education system.

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Date: 2008-09-02 07:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hitchkitty.livejournal.com
As I've explained to one of my associates, a very much "I've got mine, screw you" sort who opposes public education:
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Okay, fine. I agree the public school system isn't what it ought to be. But that means we improve the system, not throw it out entirely. And yes, that means that people without children will be taxed for something they don't seen an immediate benefit to.

But having an educated electorate IS to your benefit, whether you have children or not. Because when the electorate is ignorant, Bush Happens.
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I wonder, now, if that might not be precisely what the neocons have had in mind, all along. Gut public schools, shove religion into the science lab, denounce sex education...

The scary part is, I'm not seeing a good counterargument.

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Date: 2008-09-02 10:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lariss.livejournal.com
Ummm...less convincing arguments than this worked for the Bushwad.

Yeah. I bet they have gotten something over on "us" again.

Feh...this country.

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Date: 2008-09-02 10:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pickledcritter.livejournal.com
"Do these jerks have any idea how stupid they sound when they say this shit? Do they take pride in it, in sounding like complete daft morons and still thinking they've put one over on us?"

Us, as in the ones who consume information from multiple sources, use our noggins and put in appropriate filters - no, they're not - and they fully realize that, but don't care.

Unfortunately that "us" group isn't as big as we like to think it is - it's not insignificant but it's not the overwhelming majority we would hope for or like to think are out there.

The problem is an epidemic of laziness abounds in the US - and that includes mental laziness - conformity, the "sheep" mentality, not wanting to make an effort to think, etc. This is because our current leaders are lazy, wanting to take the easy way out of things, so the country follows suit.

"We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win, and the others, too." With these words, Kennedy sparked the space race. These weren't just words to him - he did the hard things every single day of his adult life, although no one was aware HOW hard until 40 years later when his battle with Addison's Disease was brought to light. The country followed suit and responded - we did the hard things and subsequently had one of the greatest decades in mankind's history.

Does anyone want to even think how the Cuban Missle Crisis would have turned out if Nixon had won in '60? And what happened when he did make office? He was prohibitively favored to be re-elected, but instead of carrying out a standard campaign, he got lazy, and hired lazy people who decided that it would be easier to find damning dirt on his opponents rather than have a regular campaign, and look where we are now.

No, these people don't care how they sound because they know the people they are talking to are mentally lazy and won't make the effort to vet the claims being made.

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Date: 2008-09-02 12:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phillip2637.livejournal.com
I can't answer 'why', but I confess to having watched the "Family Feud" game show a few times. The part that I hated most was the fake support people were given.

Moderator: Name the number one condiment people said they liked on their hotdogs.
Response: Ummmm...chocolate?
Rest of team: [pause] Good answer!!

Maybe there's mileage to be had with, "Everything I know about politics I learned from game shows." (And maybe that's too true to be funny.)

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Date: 2008-09-02 01:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] devospice.livejournal.com
Did you see the video of some guy saying she has foreign policy experience because "she's up there in Alaska which is right next to Russia"? That one made me laugh out loud.

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Date: 2008-09-02 09:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] partiallyclips.livejournal.com
Steve Doocy, that was. I hated him before it was cool, before he was an empty GOP shill for Fox, when he was the "comical story reporter" for Channel 4 here in DC in the 80s. He did a piece mocking my friend Matt for getting 1600 on his PSATs. He's been in the stupid shithead business a loooooong time.

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Date: 2008-09-02 02:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bayushisan.livejournal.com
I really think that the Republicans are shooting themselves in the foot this election. They realize that they made experience the only issue at first and now that they've chosen Sarah Palin they have to revise their case on the fly. In order to do that they have to now argue that Sarah Palin is, in fact, MORE experienced than either Barak Obama or Joe Biden.

They've been using the executive experience line since the day after she was named as VP. The commander in chief one came soon there-after. If she'd ever actually had to deploy the National Guard in Alaska they might have a case there, but to my knowledge she hasn't. Their deployment and equipping in Iraq is the decision of the Pentagon, not the Govenor.

There are issues I agree with on the conservative side and ideas I agree with on the liberal side and this election I'm seeing more of the ones I agree with on the liberal side. Though I'll be honest in that there are a couple potential deal breakers there. I have to go through my thought about them and pray about it before I make a voting decision, if any, this year.

But yeah the reporter tried to get an answer and the McCain spokesman was evasive and condescending.

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Date: 2008-09-02 03:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enjis.livejournal.com
"Have they put one over on us?"

Hahahahah! Are you kidding? It's what they LIVE for.

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Date: 2008-09-02 09:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marcula.livejournal.com
No dog in this hunt.

please have the Fairtaxers or the Green Party put up a real candidate this year. This is worse than Bush/Kerry. They all suck.

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