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Otherwise known as the Republican Party. They just ran this at the convention, and on national TV. Sorry, and I should've said this before I posted it, I have to warn you -- it's pretty damned disgusting, and may bring back emotions you'd rather were kept down:

A version which doesn't go to Brokaw, but right to Keith O, is here.

"Terror terror terror! Fear fear fear! Brown people will come to kill you!"

That's all these evil assholes have.

I got blasted once for a post in which I said: If you support the works of evil people, if you make excuses and defenses and rationalizations for people who are deliberately hurting others, you are yourself evil. It still holds true.

The Republican Party. They'd rather win at any cost, in any way, than do the right thing. They have no idea what the right thing is.

Big fuckin' hint: This ain't it.
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Date: 2008-09-05 02:13 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] danceswithlife
Yea Keith. Crap.

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Date: 2008-09-05 02:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] panthrsoul.livejournal.com
That was awful and it really makes me angry when people use tragedy in such a way; any tragedy. I applaud Keith for his apology and the way in which he handled it.

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Date: 2008-09-05 02:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tommytoony.livejournal.com
Disgusting. Simply disgusting.

Thank God for Keith O.

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Date: 2008-09-05 02:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] capplor.livejournal.com
Once again I'm convinced that I have better taste & greater understanding of world issues than the entirety of the Repugnant Party. & I know that I am not qualified to be President.

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Date: 2008-09-05 02:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dr-zrfq.livejournal.com
If that's all they have, then they don't deserve my vote and won't get it.

I tell you three times: Barry Goldwater and Nelson Rockefeller, however much they hated each other during their political careers, are spinning in their graves in agreement and disgust.
Edited Date: 2008-09-05 02:27 am (UTC)

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Date: 2008-09-05 02:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] capplor.livejournal.com
I agree.

Their ideas date back to Reagan & their message to the apocalypse & people are eating this garbage up.

I also agree with Kieth, but he shouldn't be the one having to make the apology.

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Date: 2008-09-05 02:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] guruwench.livejournal.com
I had to change tabs and just listen to audio at times; once again, I am impressed by Keith Olbermann and his reaction, and his apology.

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Date: 2008-09-05 02:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unclelumpy.livejournal.com
Hope or fear, America?

Hope... Or... Fear?

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Date: 2008-09-05 03:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] realinterrobang.livejournal.com
One of your commenters managed to shock and horrify me all over again, and I thought I'd run out of ways to be shocked and horrified.

So the jihadists are following God's orders to kill Americans, huh? That doesn't make me feel any better about Sarah Palin, when she says that the US href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H-btXPfhGs">following God's orders by killing people in Iraq...

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Date: 2008-09-05 02:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bosswriter.livejournal.com
Does clutching at straws apply here? What a bunch of sleazes.

This just confirms the senility of McCain that he would allow this to be shown.

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Date: 2008-09-05 07:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] singingpatient.livejournal.com
and the desperation of the repubs. shame shame shame.
to want to be in power so badly that you will open these wounds and have people live in fear. a true leader would protect the public from knowing about every single threat, rather than using those threats to win their votes. shame.

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Date: 2008-09-05 02:52 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kengr
Yeah, I recall 9/11. A friend woke me up with a phone call and told me to turn on my tv. So I was watching when the second plane hit.

And my immediate reaction when the Pentagon attack was announced as well as the (rather obvious) bit that these weren't accidents was to think of the Reichstag fire.

But that passed. I realized that not even Bush and co would set up something like that.

But as the years have passed, it's become more and more obvious that they'll exploit it to their own ends just as badly as if they *had* planned it all.

*Cheering*? After *that*?

That just shows that every single one of the people who cheered sets the campaign *far* ahead of the memories of those who died. And ahead of an sense of empathy for the friends and family of the fallen.

This is *so* far beyond the pale...

As best as I understand it

Date: 2008-09-05 02:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] capplor.livejournal.com
the Nazis are believed not to have set the Reichstag fire, either, but only to have exploited it.

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Date: 2008-09-05 03:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jgaleckas.livejournal.com
Emotional blackmail is what this is. "We won't let this happen again"?? Republicans let it happen in the first place.

And I read an article today where McCain says he KNOWS how to capture Bin Laden, so just elect him and he'll get it done. I say he's got it backwards. Capture Bin Laden FIRST, and then maybe (just maybe, mind you) he's worth electing. Otherwise it's just talk, and we're buying a pig in a poke.

Put up or shut up, sez I.

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Date: 2008-09-05 03:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ericthemage.livejournal.com
It's easy to catch a dead guy.

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Date: 2008-09-05 03:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lemmozine.livejournal.com
I am devoting my spare time for the next two months to getting Obama supporters to register and vote.

If you're planning to vote for Obama, please register and vote. If not, please change your mind or stay home.

If you're not registered yet, it's not too late. Many states have online registration. If your state allows early voting or voting by mail do it. Also vote for reasonable Democratic senators and congressional representatives in your area in order to keep a majority. And remember: bring a friend along when you vote. It's like voting twice, but legal.

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Date: 2008-09-05 07:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] singingpatient.livejournal.com
i registered this summer in new jersey. i'm voting! whee! (for obama. my brain is functional. although my first choice is ron paul, he hasn't got a shot in hell because they media refused to even cover the fact that he won the popular vote in louisiana. unfortunately, he's the best man for the job, and he hasn't got a snowball's chance in hell. if mccain had put him on the ticket, i would have actually had some thinking to do. but no he pandered to the right wing and women, any of who were hill supporters are going to be too smart to fall for this)

sad. if mccain had been elected in 2000, it may have been a different story. but he has become something frightening.

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Date: 2008-09-05 03:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anjala.livejournal.com
As someone who's spouse has served overseas in the "war zone", I can tell you that we are not there for the right reasons. Yes, we have done some good in Iraq, but you never hear about Afghanistan anymore.

All you ever hear about is Iraq (with an occasional Iran thrown in for good measure). Afghanistan and the bad boy, Osama, have long been forgotten. The powers that be decided to go into Iraq on false information and with an agenda...OIL!

I am fightened that my spouse will have to go back there. it fightens me every day. I know that if McCain/Palin win, all will be lost.

I am damn near tears because of all of this.

I wish I could say more, but the tears are now in the way.

God bless you Tom! Thank you for not being afraid to stand up for what is right.

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Date: 2008-09-05 07:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] singingpatient.livejournal.com
it is scary. i have to make a choice every day to not picture the worst happening, but to picture good, to dare to hope. it's the only way i can go on, to smile, and to go about what i need to do every day. picture a better future. it's been an awful 8 years, so it's hard to imagine, but i believe things can get better, a lot better, as long as we don't elect another warmonger!

Here is some good...

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Date: 2008-09-05 03:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gypsylady.livejournal.com
I had to navigate away. It was making me want to puke.

We are no longer a true democracy or even a republic. We are governed not by the best qualified, not by the most popular, but by the most criminal.

This is certifiable insanity and I feel helpless. I need ice cream now. Not that it'll help but it's something they can't take away from me. Yet.

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Date: 2008-09-05 07:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] singingpatient.livejournal.com
i don't know whether to laugh or cry at your post.
please, you ahve a brain, so please,. vote, and don't give up. picture obama and biden leading us into a civil tone of politics. mccain was forced to include at least a few respectful sentences about obama, because obama led the way. picture good. meditate on good. let's take our flag back!

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Date: 2008-09-05 03:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laura47.livejournal.com
If you support the works of evil people, if you make excuses and defenses and rationalizations for people who are deliberately hurting others, you are yourself evil.

SO TRUE. argh! I am not going to watch the video, I think, because I can't deal with getting angry again right now.

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Date: 2008-09-05 03:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jcw-da-dmg.livejournal.com
There is a reason I need to say this here, but by GHOD I need to say it.

For some silly reason I find it much easier to sympathise with people who have problems like "Which bills can I afford to pay this time around?" (and the answer all-too-frequently being "None") than I do with anyone who is so paranoid about the Democrats possibly someday raising his taxes that he is afraid he might have to sell his airplane. I know (and all-too-frequently AM) one of the former and only am acquainted with one of the latter. That is more than enough.

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Date: 2008-09-05 07:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] singingpatient.livejournal.com
when mccain started his list of "real americans" that we were supposed to sympathize with, it began with a real estate investor. i'm supposed to feel sorry for an investor? i feel a lot worse for a guy who worked in an RCA factory for 20 years then had his job shipped to china.

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Date: 2008-09-05 03:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bayushisan.livejournal.com
I remember turning on the television on September the 11th 2001. I remember seeing the planes hit and the awful feeling of knowing that this was the worst attack on American soil since Pearl Harbor. Watching that video brought all those horrible and sickly feelings back, and it sickens me that a party I once held to be the more honorable would sink to this level of political propoganda.

Actually it's worse than that. This video reminds me of the kind of thing you'd see in Stalin's Russia when he wanted to make people afraid of the capitalists, or Hitler's Germany when he turned the German citizens against the Jews. It's not the kind of thing I thought I'd ever see in the United States of America. This was among the worst, and sleaziest moves I've ever seen.

I have to thank the Republicans though. They reminded me of a quote by Winston Churchill. "All it takes for evil to win is for good men to do nothing."

Using the tragedy of 9/11 wasn't just wrong it was evil, and as a Christian man and an American I can no longer support a party that does this kind of thing. It will be many, manyn years before I can vote for a Republican.

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Date: 2008-09-05 07:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] singingpatient.livejournal.com
when i see a good person, regardless of party, i will vote for them.
but by allowing this video to be shown at the RNC, mccain has given his tacet endorsement of the tactics of fear to control the people so that he can be in power, the same tactic that has been used incessantly since 9/11. that makes him now one of "them."
if the repbulicans ever return to their roots, of being true conservatives- conservation of resources, balanced budget, AVOIDING foreign wars, i'd vote repub. but the dems are the new repubs in many ways. in other ways, the libertarians are the new repubs.
we really need a viable 3rd party but the 2 parties in power have locked them out.
hell, the republicans locked out ron paul this year, one of their own, a true statesman. if he had a shot, i'd vote for him.

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Date: 2008-09-05 03:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peachtales.livejournal.com
What is with all of the insane people cheering at the end of that??
Keith got it right.

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Date: 2008-09-05 03:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hitchkitty.livejournal.com
Slipping into advocatus diaboli mode for just a moment:

Keith may've said all that because he knew his fanbase would eat it up.

Now, THAT having been aknowledged, he still needed to say it. Bravo both for making it clear that this was his opinion alone, and for having the gumption to come right out and say what (I truly, desperately hope) others covering the convention were thinking.

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Date: 2008-09-05 03:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miari.livejournal.com
They are Republicans. They live to FNORD the citizenry.

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Date: 2008-09-05 03:53 am (UTC)
poltr1: (zorak2)
From: [personal profile] poltr1
As I see it, it's yet another shovelful of elephant dung that the GOP is flinging, which is what I'd expect from them, so I'm not as outraged as you. After all, they're trying to swiftboat their opponent by any means necessary.

American fascism at its finest. Sieg Heil. :-|

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Date: 2008-09-05 04:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dornbeast.livejournal.com
They aren't even trying to remember that Iran's revolutionaries, Saddam Hussein of Iraq, and Al-Qaeda (however that's spelled) weren't in one boat, are they? It's just the monolithic "THEM."

THEY are out to kill Americans.
THEY are all in agreement on this.
THEY hate civilization and freedom, which the United States has a monopoly on.
THEY started it, not us. Really. We didn't want this fight. Pay no attention to the facts.

In my opinion, "hope versus fear" just lost its position as "most important factor in this race," to be replaced by "provably stupid versus visibly intelligent."

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Date: 2008-09-05 07:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] singingpatient.livejournal.com
not in my name, redux.

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Date: 2008-09-05 04:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madrona.livejournal.com
What shocks me is my own utter lack of reaction. I've become almost completely immune to any disgusting thing that crowd can do, and it wasn't until teh Keith spoke that I realized that I *shouldn't* just expect this from one of our major parties.

Hmm...

Date: 2008-09-05 04:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ysabetwordsmith.livejournal.com
I disagree profoundly with most of the Republican platform and people. But there are people I care about who are Republican, and have valid reasons for being so, and don't necessarily agree with the whole platform any more than I agree with the whole Democratic platform. Some of those folks are people I've played your music to, who liked it. You never know who might be in your audience...

Re: Hmm...

Date: 2008-09-05 05:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] filkertom.livejournal.com
And I've got a few good friends who are both Republicans and readers/commenters of this LJ. And some family members who are Republican. That's why I very specifically said The Republican Party.

On the other hand, at this late date I'm not that worried about anyone being shocked! shocked! at my politics. I've been extremely open about that for years, moreso since BushCo took over.

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