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Date: 2008-09-16 12:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raven-ap-morgan.livejournal.com
Strike him roughly, centurion! Haul him to the floor!

(tee hee hee)

Raven

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Date: 2008-09-16 01:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] filkertom.livejournal.com
... He has a wife, you know....

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Date: 2008-09-17 02:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fredhuggins.livejournal.com
...You know what she's cawwed? Incontinentia. Incontinentia Buttocks. SHUT UP!

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Date: 2008-09-20 04:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dan-ad-nauseam.livejournal.com
Who is this Wodewick you speak of?

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Date: 2008-09-16 12:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caraig.livejournal.com
Oh, snap!

See, now this is political mudslinging of the type I grew up with: Mostly on topic, a snide side of ad hominem, and yet still factual (some spin is allowed.)

Or maybe that's just my nostalgia kicking in. You know, The Way We Never Were. (A book I need to read, actually.)

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Date: 2008-09-16 12:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] markbernstein.livejournal.com
I can already envision the episode of Celebrity Deathmatch.

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Date: 2008-09-16 01:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] msgeek.livejournal.com
Awesome. Full of win. Let's see your finishing move, Biden!

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Date: 2008-09-16 02:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] faxpaladin.livejournal.com
What strikes me as amazingly out of character for Fox News is juxtaposing Biden's quoting of McCain on the economy with the live shot of the Big Board, when the DJIA was only down the 280 points...

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Date: 2008-09-16 06:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smallship1.livejournal.com
Maybe Murdoch's starting to hedge his bets. He switched from Tory to "new" Labour over here when they started looking as if they might win.

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Date: 2008-09-16 04:19 am (UTC)

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Date: 2008-09-16 05:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elvnsword.livejournal.com
While I have no real sympathy for the man, I still gotta say that shot had to hurt.

Go Joe... :D

sombody get this man a Ladder and a Table, at this rate his is gonna need all three...
Cue Chant...
Tables and Ladders and Chairs... oh my
;)

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Date: 2008-09-16 10:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scotttheobtuse.livejournal.com
hey, Tom, have you seen the latest "Real Time with Bill Maher"? After Janine Garofolo nailed the republican party; "there is no evidence to support that the current incarnation of the republican party has any tethering to decency, kindness, tolerance, open-mindedness...what do they stand for?; torture as a policy, they stand for homophobia, they stand for no reproductive justice, they stand for denying global warming", the republican apologist for the evening asked her "so what should we do, jail them?" to which she replied "that'd be great"....you GO, girl! I may not agree with everything that Obama thinks, nuclear power in particular, but she's right....."that'd be great"

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Date: 2008-09-16 11:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] filkertom.livejournal.com
Haven't yet. I adore Janeane. I was so disappointed to find out she smokes -- otherwise, I'd be stone cold in love.

I am SUCH a dumbass!

Date: 2008-09-16 11:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scotttheobtuse.livejournal.com
I hate when that happens; I took the word of someone who I trusted, only to find out that she lied to me....Obama does not oppose nuclear power. She knew that I favor nuclear fusion and used that to try to turn me from Obama. I thought she was a friend; now I know she is a republican first.
Pardon me while I get my head out of my ass. I should have checked first.

Re: I am SUCH a dumbass!

Date: 2008-09-16 11:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] filkertom.livejournal.com
'Salright. As we approach the actual date of this interminable election cycle, we'll take a serious look at both candidates' positions. Energy and the environment are near the top of the list.

Re: I am SUCH a dumbass!

Date: 2008-09-16 12:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kyril.livejournal.com
And if you look at side effects like excess CO2 leading to more pollen leading to more/worsening asthema, addressing the environment will decrease medical costs as well as easing the costs of floods and storms.

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Date: 2008-09-16 11:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fayanora.livejournal.com
I would rather have a maniacal cyborg vampire raptor for President than John McCain. McCain is not Abel to get my vote.

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Date: 2008-09-16 12:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] filkertom.livejournal.com
I think we'd all just rather have a maniacal cyborg vampire raptor. I mean, cool.

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Date: 2008-09-16 12:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fayanora.livejournal.com
I totally have a cyborg vampire raptor. I ride it around town.

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Date: 2008-09-17 02:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fredhuggins.livejournal.com
Yeah, I miss Carter too.

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Date: 2008-09-16 12:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kyril.livejournal.com
While I don't like McCain or Palin, picking on this particular remark is kind of a low blow. W, McCain, and everyone else has the choice between saying:

1) The US economy is fundamentally strong, and generally safe to invest in.

2) The US economy is weak and/or fragile, it's not safe to invest in, put your money overseas or in hedge funds or rabbit holes or under your mattress, it's much safer that way.

Yes, lots of people are in dire financial straits, and companies all over are tightening their belts, with unemployment rising a fraction of a percent off of all-time lows (yes, I know a fraction of a percent is still tens or hundreds of thousands of people), yes gas is too expensive and houses have lost too much value even in places where their value wasn't too artificially high.

But we have to keep the money invested. A run on Wall Street due simply to panic over the economy would not be good for us -- we don't need another Black Monday of 1987 or Black Thursday/Monday/Tuesday of 1929. (Interestingly, wikipedia for the 1929 crash points out it was due to excess borrowing, to buy stocks that time instead of to buy houses...)

So, people and companies are in trouble...but if everyone decides the market or the economy is really in trouble, it's barely hyperbole to say we may as well move to Zimbabwe.

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Date: 2008-09-16 01:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redaxe.livejournal.com
Not necessarily so. Recognizing a problem is the first step to correcting it. McCain's statement is clear evidence that (until his advisors told him he had his head up his ass, sometime between then and now, Tuesday) he was deeply in denial.

Remember, this is a member of the party which derided those of us not seeing the Emperor's New Clothes as being "reality-based."

ETA: The correct response to a problem is to work out how to fix it. Panic is not appropriate, nor is it guaranteed. The job of a true leader is to bring about the fix while keeping people calm. I trust a youthful, intelligent leader rather more than the one with a temper out to There and a possible case of PTSD.
Edited Date: 2008-09-16 01:23 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2008-09-17 03:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kyril.livejournal.com
Admittedly, I can't stand McCain and would have to vote against him almost regardless of who his opponent was.

However, NPR played the entire sentence that started with the bit about how the economy is basically sound, and the second half of the sentence acknowledged that lots of individuals are hurting to various degrees. And saying that the market is fundamentally sound is definitely a way of "keeping people calm"...it's just that neither you nor I agree that how McCain thinks he can "bring about the fix" will work.

I'm quite surprised Alan Greenspan spoke as pessimistically as he did...

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Date: 2008-09-16 03:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unclelumpy.livejournal.com
Chair, schmair!

Two-by-four... Wrapped in barbed wire... On FIRE!

Re: I am SUCH a dumbass!

Date: 2008-09-16 10:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jannyblue.livejournal.com
I like your style. :-)

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