Provided You Are Contrary
Apr. 3rd, 2009 04:45 pm... you really ought to give Iowa a try:
This shakes up the landscape of the whole debate considerably. I suspect that the conservative evangelical base is gonna go ballistic, including the possibility of actual ballistics. But they are fading fast. Contrary to what Glenn Beck declaims, we -- that is, gays, lesbians, and those of us who support the cause of same-sex marriage... we surround them. And, possibly even worse: All we want to do is love who we want, and be left alone to do it. That's all.
It's turning out to be a pretty damn good day.
Iowa's Supreme Court legalized gay marriage Friday in a unanimous and emphatic decision that makes Iowa the third state — and first in the nation's heartland — to allow same-sex couples to wed.Law Dork 2.0 has a nice summary of the whole thing, and here's a statement by the Iowa legislature (h/t AmericaBlog for both).
Iowa joins only Massachusetts and Connecticut in permitting same-sex marriage. For six months last year, California's high court allowed gay marriage before voters banned it in November.
The Iowa justices upheld a lower-court ruling that rejected a state law restricting marriage to a union between a man and woman.
The county attorney who defended the law said he would not seek a rehearing. The only recourse for opponents appeared to be a constitutional amendment, which could take years to ratify.
"We are firmly convinced the exclusion of gay and lesbian people from the institution of civil marriage does not substantially further any important governmental objective," the Supreme Court wrote.
Iowa lawmakers have "excluded a historically disfavored class of persons from a supremely important civil institution without a constitutionally sufficient justification."
To issue any other decision, the justices said, "would be an abdication of our constitutional duty."
This shakes up the landscape of the whole debate considerably. I suspect that the conservative evangelical base is gonna go ballistic, including the possibility of actual ballistics. But they are fading fast. Contrary to what Glenn Beck declaims, we -- that is, gays, lesbians, and those of us who support the cause of same-sex marriage... we surround them. And, possibly even worse: All we want to do is love who we want, and be left alone to do it. That's all.
It's turning out to be a pretty damn good day.
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Date: 2009-04-03 09:15 pm (UTC)Do you really want to be thought of as progressively behind... IOWA?!!
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Date: 2009-04-03 09:24 pm (UTC)... nobody would call them progressive now, would they?
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Date: 2009-04-04 12:29 am (UTC)Nothing at all....
Date: 2009-04-04 05:34 am (UTC)On the other hand, there's Iowa City (which ain't bad) and Cedar Rapids (which was okay, except for the stenches.)
And it is a damn sight better than GA or FL, true.
But all the same, I'll stick by the South...up to the point where balkanization occurs and it becomes The Nation of Gilead. *shudder*
Saint Dharma
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Date: 2009-04-03 09:16 pm (UTC)Edited to clarify that I wasn't expecting this to happen, and certainly not today, so yeah, very nice surprise.
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Date: 2009-04-03 09:35 pm (UTC)If memory serves, every state that's legalized gay marriage thus far has done so by declaring the ban unconstitutional in the state courts. Vermont's effort, if it's not vetoed by the Republican governor, will be the first time a state legislature has made gay marriage legal.
Furthermore, over thirty states have amended their state constitutions to define marriage in purely monogamous, heterosexual terms. The courts are, for the time being at least, closed to gay marriage in those states.
And finally, we still have the Defense of Marriage Act in Washington, with minimal support in Congress for its repeal- never mind any legislated or adjucated mandate of gay marriage rights.
This is a fight that has to be waged on all fronts- local, state, federal- equally. Neither side will succeed completely without the other.
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Date: 2009-04-03 10:08 pm (UTC)You know
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Date: 2009-04-03 10:39 pm (UTC)Almost a century ago, women fought for equal rights--and won. In the 60s, African-Americans fought for equal rights--and won. Now the homosexuals are fighting for equal rights--and I'm going to do my part to help them win!
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Date: 2009-04-03 10:41 pm (UTC)Of course, if you want to get married, Iowa has an attraction California doesn't.
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Date: 2009-04-06 01:21 am (UTC)Proposition 8 was a constitutional amendment by plebiscite, which is constitutionally a valid form of amending in California.
The lawsuits claim it's not valid because the legislature needs a 2/3 majority to revise the constitution.
Whether you revise or amend a constitution, the change occurs, and the new text is part of the constitution.
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Date: 2009-04-06 01:37 am (UTC)On the other hand, I don't think the California court (which has been politicized ever since the Republicans bought the defeat of Justice Bird with fact-fudging ads) is likely to find this a revision.
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Date: 2009-04-06 01:49 am (UTC)The constitution of California distinguishes between constitutional amendments and revisions, the latter of which is considered to be a "substantial change to the entire constitution, rather than ... a less extensive change in one or more of its provisions".[16]
The text of the amendment is a single sentence.
A single added sentence is not a substantial change.
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Date: 2009-04-04 01:37 am (UTC)I would strongly suggest to anyone who decides to vacation in Iowa at least partly because of this that they send postcards to the governor and to the Chamber of Commerce in the city they're visiting, saying WHY they are choosing to spend their tourist dollars in Iowa. The carrot is often more effective than the stick.
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Date: 2009-04-05 03:52 am (UTC)Glad somebody in a position of authority finally said that.
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Date: 2009-04-04 04:51 am (UTC)Iowa is mixed politically. We have several world-famous universities which are left-of-center. The rural areas can be a bit mixed. The problem is in the lists of "what is liberal" and "what is conservative" Iowans tend to pick a lot from both lists. It's only the confrontational "us vs them" attitude in the nation that's confusing people.
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