DOCTOR WHO Spoiler Thread

[filkertom]

First ep of the new season aired tonight. I won't be able to watch it until tomorrow night, probably, but that's no reason for you not to go wild.

So: Who's hotter, Karen Gillan or Alex Kingston?





















It's a trick question. They're both very hot, in very different ways.





















Besides... dudes. Alex Kingston. I mean, dayumm.

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[wiredwizard.livejournal.com]

They're both very hot, in very different ways.

=raises cup of tea in a toast=

I'll drink to that, mate. =)

[kosaginolegion.livejournal.com]

Where is the Like button on this thing?

[markbernstein.livejournal.com]

I liked it, though it's hard to give a final grade to half a story. The main foursome has developed amazing chemistry ("I hate you" "No you don't"), so they're always a joy to watch. Some cool twists, a lot of mysteries to be resolved, references to past episodes . . . really, what more could I ask?

[joshuwain.livejournal.com]

And Stephen Moffat breaks out the High-Octane Nightmare Fuel again...! :)

[arakasi1.livejournal.com]

Yet, judging by the trailer, these are only the third creepiest creatures that will be showing up this season (just after the living dolls and Sad Clown).

[drzarron.livejournal.com]

Alex is hotter than Karen but Ponds is way hotter than Song, who should be driven away with a stick cause she's the worse excuse for a MarySue character.. Much Hate

[kosaginolegion.livejournal.com]

She started out that way for me, too, but River's been slowly earning my respect as a character. Mainly because, while she has a lot of the attributes, what she doesn't get is the constant worship and twisting of plot that is my truest measure of a Mary Sue.

Besides, I still think she's the Master.

[batyatoon]

Ffft. *glares*

[aiela.livejournal.com]

Karen Gillian is just too young for me to look at that way - she's barely older than my daughter, and it just makes it icky for me. I can admit that she's pretty, though.

[redaxe.livejournal.com]

River Song over Amy Pond (ask me again in six or eight months, story time, and I might answer differently).

I'm still a Donna Noble man, though.

[wildcard9.livejournal.com]

Well, there goes my speculation that the bulk of River's time with the Doctor will be with the 12th Doctor, and a younger actress will play River for when that happens (so River is visibly much younger than she is now).

I do love the thought that the Doctor and River are meeting each other in reverse order, and need to sync diaries to figure out where they are in each other's timeline. That is a very clever use of time travel for storytelling. The smiling River going "spoilers" is so frustrating and intriguing. I can't wait to learn who River really is.

[shadowofsummer.livejournal.com]

Pond, though in my defence I am much closer in age to Gillan than to Kingston. I get the impression Song would break me in just about every conceivable way.

[nimitzbrood.livejournal.com]

Jury's still out for me. I won't judge half an episode.

But I'm pretty sure I know who's in the final space suit. *grump*

[orlacarey.livejournal.com]

I wonder if you and I are both thinking of the same person...

[wildcard9.livejournal.com]

Possibly the same person I am thinking of. It would explain a lot.

[nimitzbrood.livejournal.com]

LJ won't let me do a cut here for some reason...

For my money unless Moffet is playing something really sneaky then only one of the main four could be in that suit:

1st choice - River Song. It would explain all the references to "killing a good man" and so much more.

2nd choice - Amy Pond. Karma for shooting at the one space suit we just saw in the first half. That and a general bitterness and sadness to the Doctor's Death.

3rd choice - The Doctor himself. Who else would he trust? A chance for Moffet to cover the subject of euthanasia in a weird way.

4th choice - Rory. He's actually the most practical of the current companions next to River and since his stint as Plasic Rory he's likely to have the hidden strength to complete the task.

So there you have it. My four bets for who's under the hood so to speak.

[wildcard9.livejournal.com]

River Song is my first guess as well. I forgot this was a spoiler thread so I could have said it here.

[arakasi1.livejournal.com]

Since the middle of last season, I've been convinced that Professor Song is in jail for killing the Doctor. I'm not sure how the plot line can be twisted around to get this to happen, but I've seen Moffet pull out weirder stuff.

[maiac.livejournal.com]

Yep, I'm convinced of it, too.

Which could explain why she goes so willingly to her death in "Forest of the Dead" [part 2 of 10/Donna episode in The Library]. Besides, of course, it's very much a River thing to do.

[dysprog.livejournal.com]

I am nearly certain that it will River. And it will be the first time she meets him.

[thistlethorn.livejournal.com]

Alex Kingston -- was there any question? ;-)

[phecda.livejournal.com]

In the (highly unlikely) event I found them both in my bed, I wouldn't kick either of them out.

In other news, Amy Pond can see the fnords.

[saganth.livejournal.com]

That's what my housemates called them too!

I had to have it explained to me *hangs head in shame*

[wildcard9.livejournal.com]

*drops mouth* Why didn't I think of that name for them?!! I owe you a drink the next time we are at Callahan's Place, or Mary's Place depending upon the time in the ficton.

[saganth.livejournal.com]

I like them both in different ways. I'm mostly cheesed off with BBC America right now. They apparently have a very peculiar definition of "limited commercial interruption"--apparently this means commercial breaks every FIVE DAMN MINUTES. I am soooo sticking to watching this on iTunes.

[redaxe.livejournal.com]

This is why the gods invented BitTorrent.

[dysprog.livejournal.com]

Tivo is my friend.

[r-caton.livejournal.com]

Me, I'm into River....
blub blub, buh-lubbbbbb

[sdelmonte]

I prefer Karen.

And that was good. Loved that they got both Mark Shepard and his dad Morgan Shepard (Blank Red on Max Headroom so long ago).

[batyatoon]

Ahem.

I propose a counterquestion: who's hotter, Matt Smith or Arthur Darvill?

(And in a counter-echo to some of the answers I've seen above: Matt Smith ... but Rory.)

[filkertom.livejournal.com]

Equal time is good, babycakes. :D

[lavenderfae9.livejournal.com]

Can I vote for Mark Sheppard on that one? Badger!!

[dysprog.livejournal.com]

River is hot, sure. But Amy Pond is just ridiculously cute. The round face, short redhead seems to my type, given that I also adore Alyson Hannigan

[lavenderfae9.livejournal.com]

The Silence reminds me of The Gentlemen in Buffy, but the Gentlemen, to me, were much creepier.

[rrcgoose.livejournal.com]

Both hot, but I'll lean towards the hot redhead who likes to wear skirts.

Now for my only thought on the mysteries of the episode: At the beginning of the episode with the Old Doctor, just where is the TARDIS? He has an old station wagon, not a big blue box.

And what a kick in the pants it would be if the shooting isn't reversible...

Steve-

[maiac.livejournal.com]

Have you seen Alex Kingston in Moll Flanders? Oh. My. Bonus: Diana Rigg as Moll's mother-in-law.

As for Doctor Who 6.1 [this is a spoiler thread, but I'll insert a Spoiler Alert anyway]: It's deliciously timey-wimey, and the aliens are mysterious and creepy. Forgetting them as soon as one looks away, however, is almost too much a repeat of the Weeping Angels.

It irritates me that after all that Amy's been through with the Doctor, she still doesn't get that you can't mess with the timeline. Or maybe, because of the reboot, she doesn't remember what she's learned? It also irritates me that, even though it's been established that Amy is one very smart cookie, the script requires her to act from emotion, not thought. Perhaps I should give the scriptwriters the benefit of the doubt, and assume Amy acted as she did because to her it's so bloody obvious that the entire reason for the invitations was that the Doctor believes they can and should change the event.

"President Nixon" was implausible. The real Nixon was a paranoid son of a bitch, who would have had his "plumbers" dealing with those phone calls. He was also a racist son of a bitch, so it's unlikely an African American Secret Service agent would have been assigned to the presidential detail, much less be calling the shots [no pun intended].

River's brief conversation with Rory about her relationship with the Doctor gave her some much-needed vulnerability. It's interesting that they don't just keep crossing each other's timelines, but that they're going in opposite directions.

I liked the opening that showed Amy and Rory did go home and have a life in Leadworth. I'm wondering, however, why Amy had to tell the Doctor when she did that she's pregnant, and why it's obviously not happy news. Likeliest reason is that she was, in essence, telling the Doctor that it's over: "I have to stay home and be a grownup from now on."

Wild speculation: It was River in the spacesuit at the beginning of the episode. And since River is living her relationship with the Doctor from end to beginning, she knows it.