"Great Americans Give Up Their Rights"
Aug. 21st, 2010 08:37 am[Sorry for the length of this, but a few people have said I really should take out the cut-tags so everyone will see this. I appreciate the sentiment, guys.]
It is worth remembering that, no matter how idiotic and clumsy some of our leaders are, how stupid the things they say, how insane the things they do, you can always count on Faux News to up the ante.
They really are a divine little propaganda organ. Their view of the world is perfectly in sync with the oligarchy that's imposed itself upon America. And their fiercely loyal viewers are told, over and over again, that We Report, You Decide.
If only.
Regarding the matter of Park 51, the prospective Islamic community center in a former Burlington Coat Factory store a couple of blocks from the former site of the World Trade Center -- I'm sorry, the mosque near Ground Zero -- Peter J. Johnson of Faux News lets us know in no uncertain terms his standards for citizenship:
As you'll see if you read from the link, the lead-in to this was a swipe at Fred Phelps, the despicable bastard whose extended family calls itself the Westboro Baptist Church, and protests whatever their particular agenda is at various funerals across the country. Johnson conflates both Phelps's tired tirades and the planned Park 51 -- in other words, Phelps's little stunts are the exact same thing as the construction of a community center near the WTC site. Or at least that's what Faux would have you believe.
I loathe Phelps, and have invoked him on my LJ numerous times, and I wish there was a simple public decency law against him disrupting a funeral. But he can say whatever the fuck he wants to say. I disagree with him on every level, but by damn he can say it.
That's what the First Amendment does.
And it does so because governmental stifling of opposing views is the first, most odious, and most effective way to suppress a people.
And I think that if somehow the Founding Fathers and all those who have bled and died over the past 234 years defending our rights could hear Peter J. Johnson's smarmy assertion that "Great Americans" give up their rights, Mr. Johnson would get the biggest historical ectoplasmic bitch-slapping in the history of the world.
But, again, he has the right to say it. I bet he even believes it, on some level. Although he may not apply it to himself.
But he says it, and some people watching Faux will hear it, and take it to heart.
The first intention of it, obviously, is to build public sentiment against the not-a-mosque. And it's another step on the path of the attempt to, at least in public opinion, make Muslims Not As Good As Us. Different. As Stephen King says, Fear Thou The Mutant.
But it works in the same way on the people it tries to rile up against the Muslims.
It says, in essence, "Good citizens -- no, Great Americans -- need to set aside their freedoms when necessary. We'll tell you when it's necessary."
And it becomes that small little bit easier for the oligarchy to control more people, to make the intolerable seem normal, to bludgeon people into shrugging and lowering their heads and not calling attention to themselves.
And the worst thing is, the first instinct for protecting yourself is to not trust anybody. Which also is a great way of making people malleable: divide and conquer, y'know?
You have to trust yourself. You have to trust your friends. You have to cultivate your own information sources, and that can take awhile. The idea is not to mistrust, or even to trust-but-verify, but to get as much truth as you can, and then work out what you can do for yourself, your friends, your community, your country with the truth. No matter what it may be.
And one of my truths is: You do not give up a right.
The Bill of Rights is a pretty cool document. It tries to cover everything, and, given the context of 1775-1789, largely succeeds. (And many of its problems, such as voting rights for minorities and women, have been ironed out over the years.) The most important things is that it does not enshrine spurious things as "rights". It says people should expect a certain amount of goodness in their lives, and these are the rules by which others are not allowed to interfere with that. It sets up very basic rules, largely intended to prevent governmental suppression.
They also work against what has become known as "the tyranny of the majority" -- circumstances where a larger segment of the population approves of something which would oppress or harm a smaller segment.
We see this a lot lately with gay rights, with women's reproductive rights. But it can apply to anything. And lately it's been a backlash against all things Muslim, fostered by talk radio and the Tea Party and Faux News and unfortunately reinforced by such people as Howard Dean who should bloody well know better.
As long as it doesn't violate local codes, as long as the people running it follow the laws, what Park 51 is really doesn't matter. It is the right of the people who want to build it to do so.
And they damn well shouldn't give that up because some xenophobic liars want to scare them into becoming their twisted, docile, head-down, know-your-role-and-shut-your-mouth version of Great Americans.
It is worth remembering that, no matter how idiotic and clumsy some of our leaders are, how stupid the things they say, how insane the things they do, you can always count on Faux News to up the ante.
They really are a divine little propaganda organ. Their view of the world is perfectly in sync with the oligarchy that's imposed itself upon America. And their fiercely loyal viewers are told, over and over again, that We Report, You Decide.
If only.
Regarding the matter of Park 51, the prospective Islamic community center in a former Burlington Coat Factory store a couple of blocks from the former site of the World Trade Center -- I'm sorry, the mosque near Ground Zero -- Peter J. Johnson of Faux News lets us know in no uncertain terms his standards for citizenship:
"I look for the day when this is no longer about politicians or pain or protest, but about neighbors becoming good neighbors," he said.[Emphasis mine.]
"Thank god and our founders for the First Amendment, but God help us if it all comes down to the need to rely upon it," he continued.
"Any American can assert a right. Great Americans give up their rights to help those they share nothing else with but a love of this country," he concluded.
As you'll see if you read from the link, the lead-in to this was a swipe at Fred Phelps, the despicable bastard whose extended family calls itself the Westboro Baptist Church, and protests whatever their particular agenda is at various funerals across the country. Johnson conflates both Phelps's tired tirades and the planned Park 51 -- in other words, Phelps's little stunts are the exact same thing as the construction of a community center near the WTC site. Or at least that's what Faux would have you believe.
I loathe Phelps, and have invoked him on my LJ numerous times, and I wish there was a simple public decency law against him disrupting a funeral. But he can say whatever the fuck he wants to say. I disagree with him on every level, but by damn he can say it.
That's what the First Amendment does.
And it does so because governmental stifling of opposing views is the first, most odious, and most effective way to suppress a people.
And I think that if somehow the Founding Fathers and all those who have bled and died over the past 234 years defending our rights could hear Peter J. Johnson's smarmy assertion that "Great Americans" give up their rights, Mr. Johnson would get the biggest historical ectoplasmic bitch-slapping in the history of the world.
But, again, he has the right to say it. I bet he even believes it, on some level. Although he may not apply it to himself.
But he says it, and some people watching Faux will hear it, and take it to heart.
The first intention of it, obviously, is to build public sentiment against the not-a-mosque. And it's another step on the path of the attempt to, at least in public opinion, make Muslims Not As Good As Us. Different. As Stephen King says, Fear Thou The Mutant.
But it works in the same way on the people it tries to rile up against the Muslims.
It says, in essence, "Good citizens -- no, Great Americans -- need to set aside their freedoms when necessary. We'll tell you when it's necessary."
And it becomes that small little bit easier for the oligarchy to control more people, to make the intolerable seem normal, to bludgeon people into shrugging and lowering their heads and not calling attention to themselves.
And the worst thing is, the first instinct for protecting yourself is to not trust anybody. Which also is a great way of making people malleable: divide and conquer, y'know?
You have to trust yourself. You have to trust your friends. You have to cultivate your own information sources, and that can take awhile. The idea is not to mistrust, or even to trust-but-verify, but to get as much truth as you can, and then work out what you can do for yourself, your friends, your community, your country with the truth. No matter what it may be.
And one of my truths is: You do not give up a right.
The Bill of Rights is a pretty cool document. It tries to cover everything, and, given the context of 1775-1789, largely succeeds. (And many of its problems, such as voting rights for minorities and women, have been ironed out over the years.) The most important things is that it does not enshrine spurious things as "rights". It says people should expect a certain amount of goodness in their lives, and these are the rules by which others are not allowed to interfere with that. It sets up very basic rules, largely intended to prevent governmental suppression.
They also work against what has become known as "the tyranny of the majority" -- circumstances where a larger segment of the population approves of something which would oppress or harm a smaller segment.
We see this a lot lately with gay rights, with women's reproductive rights. But it can apply to anything. And lately it's been a backlash against all things Muslim, fostered by talk radio and the Tea Party and Faux News and unfortunately reinforced by such people as Howard Dean who should bloody well know better.
As long as it doesn't violate local codes, as long as the people running it follow the laws, what Park 51 is really doesn't matter. It is the right of the people who want to build it to do so.
And they damn well shouldn't give that up because some xenophobic liars want to scare them into becoming their twisted, docile, head-down, know-your-role-and-shut-your-mouth version of Great Americans.
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Date: 2010-08-21 12:50 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2010-08-21 12:51 pm (UTC)I suspect that legally Americans cannot give up their constitutional rights either.
I hope the mosque is built, and lasts a thousand years. There's been lots of news coverage of this issue in our papers.
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Date: 2010-08-21 01:58 pm (UTC)*sigh* Part of me wants to stay and fight, and not have to deal with asinine foreign policy should I leave... but a fair part of me is considering learning to parlez-vous francais...
*sigh* too many good people down here, though. Like Tom, here.
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Date: 2010-08-21 12:53 pm (UTC)Re: As the US used to say, 'don't be a sucker'.
Date: 2010-08-21 01:19 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2010-08-21 12:57 pm (UTC)Jeez.
It follows
Date: 2010-08-21 05:04 pm (UTC)(If he doesn't have a right, which I would contend, then he's asking more with less justification)
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Date: 2010-08-21 01:22 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2010-08-21 01:56 pm (UTC)Granted, your journal, your First Amendment... but that's my request.
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Date: 2010-08-21 02:12 pm (UTC)Faux vs. Phelps:
"My cousin Francis [I of France] and I are in complete agreement -- he wants Vienna, and so do I."
--Emperor Charles V
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Date: 2010-08-21 02:14 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2010-08-21 02:34 pm (UTC)BTW, it's a community center, not a mosque. The model seems to be the Jewish 92nd Street Y (http://www.92y.org/).
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Date: 2010-08-21 04:32 pm (UTC)Oh wait. I remember. Something about his cold and dead body.
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Date: 2010-08-21 04:50 pm (UTC)Further than that, when they say "great Americans" they're really using a euphemism for "inferior Americans, or possibly not real Americans at all." After all, they're throwing the admonition towards people who they're trying to convince the public to despise, in some silly passive-aggressive attempt to appear to flatter them into submission.
As is usual for Fox, they're saying the opposite of what they're saying.
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Date: 2010-08-21 06:33 pm (UTC)Amazing, isn't it.
How the people who say racial profiling is no big deal, and that if dusky-hued people were really partiotic Americans, they'd put up with a little inconvenience for the greater good, are never the ones who fit the profile?
How the people who want to crack down on those icky homeless people blighting up downtown not only have homes but have always done all their shopping and gathering uptown, or better yet, out of town?
How the people who think it's only good manners to defer to the majority and never make waves are themselves in the majority? Unless, of course, their side lost the election...then, watch out!
How all the shoemakers keep coming up with sensible proofs that we need a law against going barefoot? etc....
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Date: 2010-08-21 06:16 pm (UTC)(My maternal grandfather immigrated from Japan before World War II.)
Great Americans Give Up Their Rights
Date: 2010-08-21 06:21 pm (UTC)Wow. Peter Johnson sounds just like the local police in my area during an interrogation!
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Date: 2010-08-21 06:35 pm (UTC)http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/08/20/real-americans-please-stand-up/
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Date: 2010-08-21 06:39 pm (UTC)Do I think that the Muslim group who wants to open the community center are being assholes? No. I think that the people who are causing a big fuss over it are. That being said, either one of these groups could defuse the whole mess by not insisting on their rights- either by scuttling plans to build the community center, or by shutting the heck up. I don't think either of them will.
You argue their point coherently
Date: 2010-08-21 06:56 pm (UTC)I read a quote from Dick Gregory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Gregory) in the 1960s -- "In the south, people didn't care how close I got, as long as I did not get too big [politically powerful]; In the north, they didn't care how big I got as long as I didn't get too close." I don't think the complainers want Muslims "big" or "close"
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Date: 2010-08-21 06:51 pm (UTC)It is not at/in/on/near ground zero so GOP go find another thing to complain about.
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Date: 2010-08-21 07:06 pm (UTC)Keep in mind that the Towers were a couple of blocks high. Look at the sat photos of the area immediately afterward to get some idea of the spread of the devastation.
Tom
What makes a place holy?
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Date: 2010-08-21 06:57 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2010-08-21 07:10 pm (UTC)That said, on the subject of speech, I am damn glad the Canadian government told Fred Phelps he's not welcome here. Do whatever you want when you're at home, but don't expect other countries to automatically think you should be invited for dinner if all you do at home is shit on the rug and smear mashed potatoes on the wallpaper. If he were our crank (squid forbid), I'd have a different opinion about him.
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Date: 2010-08-22 02:06 pm (UTC)(I wasn't going to jump in with any parallel's to 2nd Amendment rights, but since you brought it up, sure.)
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