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Sixteen minutes total, but worth every second.

And a beautiful example, that I almost posted about yesterday, of the craziness Rachel's talking about.

Maddow

Date: 2010-10-19 11:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] urban-terrorist.livejournal.com

Intelligence is sexy. And Rachel is intelligent. Very intelligent.

Re: Maddow

Date: 2010-10-19 01:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] technoshaman.livejournal.com
She's also willing to take on the hard questions, the ones with no simple answers, and get the truth out there.

Of course, the problem I have is I don't see a whole helluva lot of hope on the other side of the aisle, when Reed and Pelosi and Obama Himself roll over and do exactly what the Corporate Party wants them to, including appeal DADT when they could've simply let it *drop*... I'm increasingly convinced that the Corporate Party includes *both* sides of the aisle, that all this hoo-ha is simply the circuses to go along with our daily bread...

How do I propose to combat this? The same way Tom does. With music. People *remember* funny songs, and they can have messages. (My first project is actually going to be spoken word; Scalzi had an excellent piece (http://whatever.scalzi.com/2010/10/18/things-i-dont-have-to-think-about-today/) yesterday, and a commenter gave me an idea, and it's beginning to snowball (http://miawol.org/blog/?p=422)....)

But, yeah. Intelligence is verra sexy. And interestingly, though she's mostly liberal, she's a defense conservative, and (thus?) non-partisan when it actually comes down to pulling voting levers or stumping. There's a part of me that is chagrinned that I have, by definition, hell's chance in a ball of snow with her... but the rest of me says, hey, stupid, Rachel wouldn't be Rachel if she swung that way.... so I'll just be over here admiring the view (and the words); hopefully she takes it in stride, as I do when bears admire me. :)

Re: Maddow

Date: 2010-10-19 04:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tinrat.livejournal.com
The corporations own the Republicans, but the Democrats have proven, time and again, that they can be rented, quite affordably.

If the choice is between what terrifies me and what disappoints me then I know what choice to make. But I really getting tired of the grumbling I hear when we ask them to be a little less disappointing.

Re: Maddow

Date: 2010-10-19 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skemono.livejournal.com
the Democrats have proven, time and again, that they can be rented, quite affordably.

Handy pictorial evidence:

What choice?

Date: 2010-10-19 06:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] urban-terrorist.livejournal.com

You live in what is effectively a single party state, with the right wing and the righter wing of the party fighting it out.

Re: Maddow

Date: 2010-10-19 11:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nagasvoice.livejournal.com
We ain't arguing about what they are, just about the cost...

Re: Maddow

Date: 2010-10-19 09:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] banjoplayinnerd.livejournal.com
Joe Hill said it best. A pamphlet, no matter how well written, gets read once at most and then tossed aside; but a song gets sung over and over again, and taught to others, who sing it and teach it to others.

Do you remember any labor tracts of the first decade of the 20th century? Funny thing, neither do I. Not without a bunch of research. But you may well have heard of Hill's song, "The Preacher And The Slave" from about the same time; and you almost certainly have at least heard of a variation on the chorus of the song, "There'll be pie in the sky by and by."

(no subject)

Date: 2010-10-19 06:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lovefromgirl.livejournal.com
I caught that last night (as evidenced by the love letter to Meghan McCain). BRILLIANT. I know she'll never do it, but if she gets tired of this news gig, she'd be one of the most competent politicians in office, oh, ever.

(no subject)

Date: 2010-10-19 09:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] banjoplayinnerd.livejournal.com
Oh FSM I hope not. She might do well as a politician. She certainly has the intelligence, and I suspect she would be a Wellstone/Franken type. But we need her right where she is, at least for now.

(no subject)

Date: 2010-10-19 11:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lovefromgirl.livejournal.com
I said "if she ever gets tired of it", not "this election cycle". Like, in a decade or two. :)

(no subject)

Date: 2010-10-20 12:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] banjoplayinnerd.livejournal.com
I suspect we will still have clueless politicians who need a real journalist to put them in line even then.

But yeah, the thought of Rachel Maddow being the first openly lesbian senator is . . . interesting. :)

Alaskan politics

Date: 2010-10-19 10:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shala-beads.livejournal.com
I love it up here so much. The air, the mountains, the seasons, but when it comes to politics.. just.. wow.
Joe Miller managed to get his party nomination ousting an incumbent. Last time that happened, it was Sarah ousting Lisa's father from the Governor's seat.
Alaskan politics being what they are? I still think Sarah was a better choice than Frank.
But Joe is just nuts. On all sorts of levels. So since Lisa is running on a write in, my hope? That she splits the conservative vote and the Democrat candidate gets in, or even that she makes history and wins. At least she's a kind of conservative nuts we know.

Re: Alaskan politics

Date: 2010-10-20 12:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] banjoplayinnerd.livejournal.com
If she were to win her write-in bid it would be interesting to see what she would do. While she would still no doubt caucus with the Republicans, she would be under little obligation to toe the party line. About the only thing they could hold over her head would be committee assignments.

Libertarians.

Date: 2010-10-20 05:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tesral.livejournal.com
No, that is not how libertarians think. A libertarian would taking down what barriers do exist and erasing the boarder all together. Anyone formating more government control is not a libertarian no matter what they call themselves. What is a Libertarian? (http://phoenixinn.iwarp.com/Politicks/whatis.html) explains this rather well.

My plan for the whole mess as follows (http://phoenixinn.iwarp.com/Politicks/border.html). The whole immigration brew is something that gets whipped up every election to polarize the public and hide the real issues, our vanishing rights and increasing governmental power, spending, etc., ad nasuem.

Poor Mexicans that want to flip burgers for a slow starving wage are not near the threat to this country in their thousands as one congressman.

(no subject)

Date: 2010-10-21 06:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fayanora.livejournal.com
At this point, it would be safer to vote for an openly Al-Qaeda candidate than a Republican one. I wish I were exaggerating.

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