Oh My GOD

Aug. 1st, 2009 08:32 am
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I have always been a fan of Jim Cornette, one of the greatest talkers in the history of pro wrestling. What I did not know, however, is that [a] he is a loud and proud liberal and [b] former ECW announcer Joey Styles is not.

Recently, Styles went off on Barack Obama... and Cornette smacks Joey's ass down. It's about ten minutes long, and starts off with some self-promotion and a little bit of back-story, but it's worth it. Truly, one of the primo rants of all time. Not safe for work (language).

(The dKos page links to a "video" at the Daily Motion, but it's only audio with a still frame, so your browser is indeed working correctly. Here's a direct link, to avoid the problem of the dKos page refreshing, and [profile] kestrels_nest points us to a transcript.)

So, which politician(s) would you like to see put through a table?

ETA: Link to the transcript.

ETA2: I never did mention where the subject line came from. "Oh my GOD (or maybe GAWD)" is Joey Styles' catchphrase.

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Date: 2009-08-01 01:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elisabeth.livejournal.com
DEVON! GET THE TABLES!

Um, can we start with Cheney, Limbaugh and Rice?

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Date: 2009-08-01 01:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jss
My first thought was "All of them," but there have to be one or two decent ones somewhere.

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Date: 2009-08-01 02:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bryanp.livejournal.com
Maybe, but why take chances? All of them.

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Date: 2009-08-01 02:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starcat-jewel.livejournal.com
Way to differentiate yourself from the right wing there.

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Date: 2009-08-01 03:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] filkertom.livejournal.com
Now, now. It's on me for opening the floor.

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Date: 2009-08-01 04:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bryanp.livejournal.com
Um. That was what some of us like to call a joke. But apparently not a good one.

No, I do not think every politician is evil, and nor do I think they should all be killed. Granted, there are a few I'd like to see horsewhipped through the middle of town.

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Date: 2009-08-02 06:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barbara-the-w.livejournal.com
Well, as the old saying goes, once we kill all the lawyers...

well, frankly, there goes most of the politicians.

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Date: 2009-08-01 01:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valkyrwench.livejournal.com
That absolutely made my morning. We need more people like Jim Cornette to be speaking up.

Go, Jim!!

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Date: 2009-08-01 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jblaque.livejournal.com
Absolutely. I'm definitely re-posting this one.

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Date: 2009-08-01 02:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misterseth.livejournal.com
1. The Iranian supreme council and their puppet Ahmadinejad.
2. Shirley Phelps, from WBC. (I know she's not a politician. I don't like her attitude)

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Date: 2009-08-01 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maiac.livejournal.com
That was one amazing rant.

Max Baucus and the other Blue Dogs who would rather have payoffs from the insurance lobby than save Americans from dying for lack of health care. Through a table, through the wall, through a granite cliff.
Edited Date: 2009-08-01 03:39 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2009-08-01 03:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kestrels-nest.livejournal.com
For such as me who can't listen to it because NSFW is also NSFKids, a complete transcript may be found at: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5815470&mesg_id=5821252.

And it is, indeed, a thing of beauty and a joy to behold.

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Date: 2009-08-07 02:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] old-fortissimo.livejournal.com
Wow. May his tribe increase.

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Date: 2009-08-01 04:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wildcard9.livejournal.com
Wow, that is a great rant. I am really impressed, not something I had expected when you said who this rant was from. Nice to see that not everyone out there was brainwashed by the past administration.

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Date: 2009-08-01 04:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tomreedtoon.livejournal.com
Politicians being put through a table would be kind of pointless; they only have real power from the right-wing media. Would anyone believe these guys if they weren't convinced to do it?

So, I would love to see Limbaugh shaking the way the old "Mr. Bouncy-Bouncy" video does, only a lot faster, as he gets dropped onto a card table. Now, a card table doesn't have a lot of strength...but if collapsed it DOES have a lot of hard, sharp metal legs. I think you could call it a "Rush-kabob."

And Glen Beck should be dropped onto a table in the middle of a Klan rally, breaking all their bottles of moonshine. (Jack Daniels is too high-falutin' for them good ol' boys.) You know what Klansmen are like without their booze? He'd be on the spit and barbecued before you could sing a chorus of "General Lee Broke a Musket on His Knee."

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Date: 2009-08-01 05:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] morgwensraven.livejournal.com
ok.. I'll admit that I didn't really like jim cornette... ever since he showed up in the WCW.. but DANG!!!!!!!! I definitely like him now and I'll definitely be re-posting it. My Gods!!!! I love it.

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Date: 2009-08-01 05:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lemmozine.livejournal.com
Somebody help me out of this trance - I am convinced more and more that there's good in everybody, and demonizing the folks I don't agree with doesn't get me anywhere. Case in point: I was chatting with one of my Medicaid clients yesterday at work, politics came up (often does when you work in a healthcare-related job) and I admitted to being somewhere on the far left. "From each according to ability and to each according to need" still sounds like a great idea to me. My client, also very liberal, admitted to having voted for a certain local congressional candidate who is known for being on the extreme right. "Why?" I asked.

Apparently he was very helpful in assisting her disabled husband with his fight to get social security benefits, and she was returning the favor.

I really do think that most politicians, on both sides, get into the game for good reasons (wanting to serve the public, etc.) as opposed to a mad desire for power. Yes, there is corruption, but unfortunately the capitalist system doesn't work without at least a small amount of corruption, because greed is the motivating force that keeps it going. I also think capitalism, socialism and communism are all workable models for operating and governing a society. Capitalism actually uses evil (greediness) to increase production, and attempts to turn a negative into a positive. Unfortunately, without checks and balances, the system collapses - my own opinion of how to solve our economic woes is somewhat more radical than our president's, and involves several actions, the first and foremost of which is eliminating from our laws the nonsense that a corporation is a person, and make all of those who own stock in corporations financially liable for crimes committed by the corporation, as well as making those who run the corporation criminally liable.

As to who I'd like to see put through a table - well, to start, anyone presently standing in the way of reasonable immigration reform.

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Date: 2009-08-01 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] filkertom.livejournal.com
Said local congressional candidate remembered that the idea of public service is to serve the public. More power to him.

And goodness knows there are several good friends with whom I have agreed to disagree with, including some here on LJ, because we differ in attitudes on politics or religion or something else, but otherwise we get along great and would help each other instantly if necessary. I've said before, I'd try to save Dick Cheney's life if it fell to me.

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Date: 2009-08-01 06:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lemmozine.livejournal.com
I get very annoyed when people say, "Can't we just agree to disagree?"

My canned response, "I don't think so."

I can agree to think. I can agree to consider more than one side of an issue, weigh facts and opinions, and form my own opinion based on available information. I can agree to argue incessantly to try to convince someone of the error of their ways, or allow them to convince me of the error of mine. However, I'd prefer not to set myself up as anyone's ideological opposite. I think any two people can find common grounds somewhere. My opinion may change on a given issue. I may agree with someone one day and disagree with them the next. Agreeing to disagree disallows me this fluidity of thought, and I will have none of it. Agreeing to disagree closes down the dialogue, and allows me and those I disagree with to remain static and refuse to learn and grow. No, I'm sorry, I can't agree to disagree, ever, with anyone, and that is an absolute.

Or is it?

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Date: 2009-08-01 05:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smoooom.livejournal.com
All of them, except perhaps Winston Churchhill.

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Date: 2009-08-02 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barbara-the-w.livejournal.com
*laughs*

Winston was an ass. A brilliant ass, but an ass nonetheless.

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Date: 2009-08-01 05:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zibblsnrt.livejournal.com
So, which politician(s) would you like to see put through a table?

This is easily my favorite discussion prompt here for awhile. %)

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Date: 2009-08-01 05:38 pm (UTC)
ext_18496: Me at work circa 2007 (Democrat)
From: [identity profile] thatcrazycajun.livejournal.com
Oh, geeze...have you got a week? Junior Bush, Darth Cheney, Asscroft and Gonzo, Rove, Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, Coulter, and just about all the Southern GOP Senators (including the two currently representing me from Georgia, against my will), our Governor Sonny Perdue, the state House Speaker Glenn Richardson, Ralph Reed, that shriveled old bat Sadie Fields of GA's Christian Coalition, all of the Prop 8 instigators from California...

I could go on, but you begin to see the problem. Once you start with the truly evil, you start to slop over onto the lesser devils and then you need a whole stage rather than just a table or two...
Edited Date: 2009-08-01 05:40 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2009-08-01 10:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bayushisan.livejournal.com
See my issue with guys like Beck, Hannity and Limbaugh are that they're too cowardly to actually run for office and put their ideas on the line. It's the same issue I have with guys like Rove and Dick Morris.

(Keep in mind I have many other issues with Rove and Morris as well)

Both men are strategists. Both men advocate doing whatever is necessary and being willing to throw your own mother under the bus to get elected. Yet neither one is man enough to run himself. Says something about them doesn't it?

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Date: 2009-08-01 06:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redaxe.livejournal.com
Many. The ones that come to mind readily are pretty obvious choices: Michele Bachman, John Kyl and the Republican obstructionists, Max Baucus (and his Blue Dogs (and wouldn't that be a shudderworthy band name? :-) ), Biggus Dickus Cheney, Karl Rove, and Rush and all the other so-called entertainers who advocate violence on the basis of race, gender, sexual preference, or anything else that might reduce their white-man privilege.

To start with.

But I'm a gentle soul, and would pray that they survived the experience.

So it could be repeated.

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Date: 2009-08-01 07:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unclelumpy.livejournal.com
Let's start with that one Congressman who was on CNN yesterday talking about how health-care reform would lead to "millions of dead kids".

By "kids", of course, he meant "fetuses".

Never mind the kids we have dying now because their families can't afford decent health care and/or insurance.

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Date: 2009-08-01 11:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hanabishirecca.livejournal.com
I've started calling them "Republican Supported 4th Trimester Abortions".
Edited Date: 2009-08-01 11:13 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2009-08-02 07:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hitchkitty.livejournal.com
because their families can't afford decent health care and/or insurance

Ah, but according to the Gospel of Capitalism, those kids are suppossed to die.

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Date: 2009-08-01 08:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bayushisan.livejournal.com
That was quite the rant.

He made some good points about the direction of conservative commentary these days but I do wish we could get past the stereotype of Christians being stupid or irrational. I've heard it more than once and while there are irrational people that call themselves Christian they're by no means exclusive to any particular belief.

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Date: 2009-08-01 10:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] filkertom.livejournal.com
True enough. But they are the loudest Christians by far, and thus tend to get more noteriety -- and, bluntly, more legislation passed.

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Date: 2009-08-01 11:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bayushisan.livejournal.com
I guess. Personally I don't like any kind of negative stereotyping. It diminishes people and having been pushed around and picked on much of my life, even by people who professed to be fellow believers, I'm kind of sensitive on that particular issue.

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Date: 2009-08-01 11:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nagasvoice.livejournal.com
I appreciate reasonable liberal Christians speaking up in places like this to prevent any of us stereotyping people of faith in general.
But are us so-called liberals the only ones getting told to be reasonable?
Does anybody else get to hear this?
Do reasonable Christians speak to anybody else about this concern?
Do they get heard?
Is anybody speaking back to the guys who incite the bombings of clinics and attacks on life-saving doctors, for instance? Do reasonable liberal Christians also speak up to those leaders of organizations who espouse hate speech and incite violence by their followers? Do they insist to other Christians in larger national organizations that a splinter group does not speak for them when entire wings of their own faith are besmirching the whole religion with calls to "attack the enemy by any means"?
Do they speak up to those corporate churches and media sources who make money off inciting violence by whipping up the ignorant to donate more money?
You say those people do not speak for you, but they keep on doing it, and as far as the general public knows from national media, you hear nothing from the liberal side.
That could be the fault of biased media.
Or not loud enough voices.
Far as I hear, nobody else is speaking up. I don't hear of other people of faith getting any attention at all.
Or it is only said to us, because us liberals are the only ones who aren't gonna hang you up on a barb wire fence and shoot you repeatedly, just like they do to mud people and fags and transpeople and those dman feminists?
I know there's people of faith with strong views on social justice out there, I get emails from some of them.
But do they get *heard* in their national religious communities?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=291x1

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Date: 2009-08-02 03:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bayushisan.livejournal.com
I'd like to think that there are people within the Christian community who denounce bombing clinics, whether those people are pro-choice, pro-life or what have you. I know that the churches I grew up in never advocated violence, they advocated community outreach and peaceful protest. (Though I suppose that's a different discussion)

I don't know of any church that recognizes cults like the WBC or it's imitaters.

I've seen reprehensible behaviour from people who were professing Christians and I've great kindness from people who had disavowed all religion. It comes down to this in my experience: people can call themselves whatever they want for as long as they want. If their actions don't match the teachings then something's off.

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Date: 2009-08-02 10:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nagasvoice.livejournal.com
Ahh, thank you. That is helpful to know.

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Date: 2009-08-02 02:34 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2009-08-01 10:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vid848.livejournal.com
I knew that Joey Styles was a very devout Catholic (I read an interview with him once where he was talking about how he balanced his personal faith with his job, among other things), I just didn't think that he was of the Mel Gibson FAR RIGHT WING branch of Catholicism. His "Obama ran away from his middle name" shows great Twithead thinking. My rebuttal to that would be "If some person was a wrestling fan had a child sometime in the last 15 years and gave the child the middle name of BENOIT, does that mean the kid is evil?" Think.....how hard is it? Learn beyond your comfort zone. Question everything. Blind faith acceptance of anything is the last thing any Higher Power would want for their creations.

My respect for Cornette just grew. Way to speak truth to drones, sir.

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Date: 2009-08-01 11:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wildcard9.livejournal.com
I need to add politians to put through a table: all of the democratic congressmen who voted to REMOVE an amendment from a new health care law that would make it illegal to include illegal imigrants in any future health care coverage bills and laws. They voted to remove it because it was introduced by republicans, no other reason. The amendment would not effect any current laws (like that they have to be treated if they show up at the ER with a life-threatening injury/problem). It was to make them explicidly excluded in all future bills and laws going forwards to remove a major incentive for them to be here illegally.

I am sorry, I consider myself liberal, but I AGREE with the idea put forth by the republicans here. Even when I dont agree with them 90% of the time, that means 10% of the time they have a good idea I want to see passed. And the same goes for the democrats, they every so often have a dud of an idea. I don't care which party puts forth the idea, if it is a good idea then let it go forards. Do not kill it simply because it came from the other party!!

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Date: 2009-08-02 06:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] james-the-evil1.livejournal.com
It'd really complete this if Cornette would take his tennis racket & smack Joey upside the head with it. :)

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Date: 2009-08-03 12:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] antinomic.livejournal.com
It must be a moving list: Everyone politian I disagree with. They will all be gone quickly enough. Then I can be King! Can you write us a new national anthem that is upbeat and does not glorify war? And only 1 octave or so, I can't span the three octaves our current anthem requires.

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