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Jan. 12th, 2011 07:10 am
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CNN's Erick Erickson says that, in the wake of the Tuscon shootings, we're not talking enough about "a saving faith in Jesus Christ".

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Date: 2011-01-12 12:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maiac.livejournal.com
Don't worry, Erick, Fred Phelps and his clan will be talking about it enough for everybody, at the funeral of the 9-year-old girl Jesus didn't save from getting killed.

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Date: 2011-01-13 02:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kengr
Arizona passed a law in an emergency session just to stop Phelps from protesting at any of the funerals.

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Date: 2011-01-12 12:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] mimiheart.livejournal.com
I didn't hear that Jesus was at that press conference, stopping bullets.

I thought the biggest saviors were the person with a lawn chair and the retired Army Colonel who stopped the guy.

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Date: 2011-01-12 01:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arensb.livejournal.com
Maybe Jesus was busy that day, helping some sports team. I hear he does that a lot.

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Date: 2011-01-13 07:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catlin.livejournal.com
The most real christian view I have heard, is that Jesus brought the colonel and the lawn chair guy there

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Date: 2011-01-12 12:50 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2011-01-12 01:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rdmaughan.livejournal.com
Given that Gabrielle Giffords is Jewish this is in even worse taste than drivel like this usually is.

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Date: 2011-01-12 01:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizziecrowe.livejournal.com
For fuck's sake.

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Date: 2011-01-12 02:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redaxe.livejournal.com
Aaaaand....there's Sarah, misusing language even more insultingly:

“Acts of monstrous criminality stand on their own,” Ms. Palin said in a video posted to her Facebook page. “Especially within hours of a tragedy unfolding, journalists and pundits should not manufacture a blood libel that serves only to incite the very hatred and violence that they purport to condemn. That is reprehensible.”


(Via the ever-awesome Balloon Juice, where we find out that this is the Right's new catchphrase (used so far by Instapundit in the WSJ and then tweeted by Jon Henke; I wonder how many instances we'll see by day's end).

Pardon me while I go wash up. I feel dirty even typing this stuff.

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Date: 2011-01-12 02:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alverant.livejournal.com
Has Palin given any examples of violence criticism of her has created or is this another case of IOKIYAR?

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Date: 2011-01-12 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annearchy.livejournal.com
If chutzpah and narcissism were a single person, their name would be Sarah Palin.

She should feel dirty for even thinking this, much less suggesting it. And Erick Erickson (I know nothing of him other than this) is an asshat.

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Date: 2011-01-12 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alverant.livejournal.com
What's next, is she going to claim journalists and pundits are planning a Final Solution to ruin her career?

I shouldn't have said that. Jinx.

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Date: 2011-01-12 02:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alverant.livejournal.com
Would the biblical Jesus have done this? Doubtful. I also doubt he would have approved of the toxic political atmosphere. The more I read about the shooting, the more wonder if it was the general atmosphere that caused it.

In any case, that's no reason not to try and eliminate the threats (real or implied) in political discourse.

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Date: 2011-01-12 02:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rickvs.livejournal.com
Here, I've spent my whole life keeping an eye out for people who spelled "Erick" the same odd way I do. And now I'm cringing. Think I'll go hit up Netflix for some of Erick Avari's work...

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Date: 2011-01-12 03:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lemmozine.livejournal.com
It has now been proved beyond a shadow of a doubt by science that nothing I say will have any impact on reality. This is further proof of that. At least, now I know.

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Date: 2011-01-12 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smoooom.livejournal.com
I'm not even going to read the article. I don't suppose that pointing out that it's not all Christians are saying this, most of us are appalled at the stupidity of what happened. Personal belief aside, it has no place in a tragedy of such proportions. But then idiots like Erikson have no sense of decency or proportion.

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Date: 2011-01-12 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] filkertom.livejournal.com
I specifically gave the link for a Media Matters article that links to the original article, so that you wouldn't have to read it. I do this because I don't want to add to the popularity that the original article would garner in search engines by being listed on more web sites.

And of course not all Christians are saying this. What's appalling is not only that this guy is saying it, but that he's a prominent CNN talking head.

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Date: 2011-01-12 04:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dornbeast.livejournal.com
...wait. So I'm at fault, because I don't have faith in Jesus Christ? Is this one of those quantum mechanics sociology things, like gay marriage somehow threatening other peoples' marriages?

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Date: 2011-01-12 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unclelumpy.livejournal.com
I'm taking what small amount of comfort I can in the fact that despite all the political haymaking, so far everyone (as far as I know) is appalled by, condemns and otherwise acknowledges the shooting as wrong.

We can all talk the talk, but when the reality matches the rhetoric, even the most hardcore amongst us are forced to take pause.

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Date: 2011-01-12 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] infinitemorning.livejournal.com
Can we institute a program to get all the pundits, extremist politicians and lunatic Tea Partiers off the planet? I just don't have the energy to deal with it anymore. A 9-year-old girl, a federal judge, an aide and too many others are dead, a member of Congress was shot through the head, and the noise machine won't stop. I don't want to rage over it, I don't even want to hear it, I just want them to go away.

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Date: 2011-01-13 03:05 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] batyatoon
... Maybe it's because I was just reading the bits about blood libel, but I read those first words as "Can we institute a pogrom".

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Date: 2011-01-12 06:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redneckgaijin.livejournal.com
Although you are quite right to shame CNN for allowing the shameless liar onto their network, Erickson is better known as the man behind RedState.com (IIRC) and the money man for Mr. O'Keefe's ACORN films and other outrageously deceptive video releases.

Because, y'know, Jesus loved to have people bear false witness against one another.

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Date: 2011-01-12 06:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] filkertom.livejournal.com
I do believe you're correct. Either way, I ain't linking to Red State.

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Date: 2011-01-12 07:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fair-witness.livejournal.com
So ... if Jesus can be your body armor, how come the Popemobile is bulletproofed? For that matter, why does the Pope need the Swiss Guard?

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Date: 2011-01-13 02:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maiac.livejournal.com
Catholics aren't Christians, according to extremist Protestant Christians, so what the Pope does doesn't count.

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Date: 2011-01-12 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] realinterrobang.livejournal.com
Especially in the context of the "blood libel" remark that Palin used and is apparently making the rounds on the right, I can't see this as anything other than in-your-face antisemitism. Watch out for someone in that discourse using the word "perfected."

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Date: 2011-01-12 09:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judifilksign.livejournal.com
Perhaps Erickson ought to be thinking about "a saving faith in Jesus Christ" for his own flaws and faults, so that he can be a more forgiving and loving Christian himself.

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Date: 2011-01-13 07:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] realinterrobang.livejournal.com
Perhaps Mr. Erickson should stop talking about "saving faith" in Christianity in response to the attempted assassination of a Jewish politician, and the successful murder of her Jewish aide by someone who sure as hell fits the profile of a crypto-neo-Nazi, particularly when Mr. Erickson seems to have a documented record of trying to deflect attention away from neo-Nazi/Christian Identity terrorists, in favour of imaginary Muslims.

Perhaps Mr. Erickson, given his appalling hack journalism at Red State, and his track record of error, also should lose his damn job at CNN. There's no need for CNN to be paying him money for that kind of crap, nor to be providing a CNN kind of soapbox.

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