Medical Provider "Conscience" Rule Rescinded

[filkertom]

THANK YOU.

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[zenturbo.livejournal.com]

About damned time.

[kirylyn.livejournal.com]

YES!!!

about FRAKIN time!!

put that in thy pipe and smoke it stuck up prigs

[redaxe.livejournal.com]

Huzzah for good judgment!

Professional license > religious beliefs in a secular society.

[hbruton.livejournal.com]

Nice to see some good news:)

[tantra-cat.livejournal.com]

Yes, this is good. I really hope it includes the pharmacists who won't dispense birth control or the 2nd day pill, or depression medicine cause if you are depressed God must want you to be.

Of course the rethuglicans are trying to make the "conscience" clause permanent under some other legislation....

[thatcrazycajun.livejournal.com]

I'd feel a lot better about this news if (a) I weren't pretty sure Obama will be a one-termer [due to his having alienated his base with broken promises, and energized the right practically by just being there] and his GOP successor will likely reinstate the clause, just as Junior Bush reinstated the global "gag rule" on federal aid to healthcare providers overseas after Bill Clinton had rescinded it; and (b) if, as TC notes above, Congressional Repugs weren't plotting to make it permanent law untouchable by Presidents of either party. This is far, far from being settled anytime soon.

[shelleybear.livejournal.com]

(a) I weren't pretty sure Obama will be a one-termer [due to his having alienated his base with broken promises, and energized the right practically by just being there]

Here's some thoughts:
1) Obama because he's black
2)Hillary because she's A)A woman and B)A Clinton
3)Richardson because he's Hispanic.
4)Kucinich because he's a commie and believes in U.F.Os
5)Edwards right up until they found out he cheated on his wife.
6)Biden because, well, he's Biden.
7)Gravel because he's senile
8)Senator Christopher Dodd because he represents THE ESTABLISHMENT.
Have I forgotten anyone?
See, whoever got in would energize the Right.
Which is essentially a hive of bull shit, moral hypocrisy and ethical bankruptcy.

[wcg.livejournal.com]

The Democratic base will vote for Obama because they know he's the best they're going to get. What Obama has to do right now is go after the center, and that's what he's doing. He's getting a lot of Republican help, as the current actions of Republicans in Congress are alienating the center rapidly, and making many people who voted for tea party candidates regret that choice.

[admnaismith.livejournal.com]

Polls show if we had the election now, Obama would beat every Republican on the menu in a landslide. He carries every state he won in 2008 against *every* GOP contender, except that he loses Indiana to some of them. Against Palin, he carries 42 states including your Georgia. Who exactly do you envision beating him in a national election.

So the Republican crazy base is energized. Big deal. They're always energized. They're energized because Teh Gay is coming to break up their marriages. They're energized because they have to press One for English. They're the most freaked-out people in the world. A significant number of them will have died of apoplexy by November 2012 and won't be able to vote.

Ohio is probably lost to the Republicans for a generation due to Kasich's overreaching, just like Wisconsin may never vote Republican ever again.

[dan-ad-nauseam.livejournal.com]

I'm not convinced about Ohio. The Ohio D's have long been pretty good at setting up circular firing squads.

[ashnistrike.livejournal.com]

Thank you. Well said.

[kengr]

I'm somewhat worried by the use of the word "most" in that article. What part(s) *didn't* they rescind?

[skemono.livejournal.com]

According to the NYT article,

The Obama administration retained and updated part of the 2008 rule that established procedures to investigate complaints from health care workers who believe they have been subjected to discrimination or coercion because of their "religious beliefs or moral convictions."

Actually, I could live with -A- conscience rule

[capplor.livejournal.com]

if it were coupled with a REQUIREMENT to point out a reasonable alternative. (Not more than X miles away would be nice).

This "it's legal but I won't do it" is effectively a ban (on whatever) in certain undisclosed areas.

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[zibblsnrt.livejournal.com]

I doubt the type of person who'd refuse to fill a legitimate prescription for someone because of whatever misogynistic beliefs they feel override their profession would recognize the idea of any reasonable alternatives.

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[capplor.livejournal.com]

That's the point. A REQUIREMENT to send the customer to where he can get the perfectly-legal services he seeks. If they can't do that, then they are in violation of the law. (And, besides, they lose money, as the customers take OTHER business away from the delicately-conscienced)

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[capplor.livejournal.com]

Not to mention full & accurate information on where to get said services.

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[catsittingstill.livejournal.com]

Personally I think just eliminating the conscience rule is a better idea.

"A conscience rule provided they give full and accurate information on reasonable alternatives" is basically just a way for woman haters to make it *harder* to get birth control. Why the hell should we let them put up *any* barriers at all? We owe them nothing.

Certainly nothing worth hurting a tired woman who just got off a 13 hour shift and has to go back on in 8 hours, and understandably doesn't feel like driving another thirty miles and thrashing around some tiny neighborhood of poorly marked one way streets with no parking to find an "alternative" pharmacy where they will just fucking treat her like a human being and fill the damn prescription already, except oops by the time she can get there that pharmacy is closed.

People whose emotional baggage about women and sex get in the way of them doing their damn jobs should just be fired. In this economy they'll be easy to replace with decent people.

Re: Actually, I could live with -A- conscience rule

[stormgren.livejournal.com]

No.

If they can't hack the job, they shouldn't do the job. No outs, no "reasonable alternative" and they go find another line of work that's compatible with whatever their invisible sky wizard says is okay.

Re: Actually, I could live with -A- conscience rule

[hvideo.livejournal.com]

So you're OK with "Separate but equal"?

Re: Actually, I could live with -A- conscience rule

[capplor.livejournal.com]

... and I haven't stopped beating my wife, either (Says Robin, while rolling eyes)

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[starcat-jewel.livejournal.com]

NOT. For reasons amply pointed out in the rest of the comments. People who have genuine "conscience issues" about birth control, etc. don't take jobs which are going to put them into that sort of conflict; it's not as though you don't know about it going in.

If your God interferes with your doing your job, you either need a different job or a different God.

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[ashnistrike.livejournal.com]

That would work very well for people who have a car and don't live in the bible belt, or in a small isolated town with one pharmacy.

People shouldn't take jobs if they find the basic tasks involved unethical. This is a reasonable requirement.

[pocketnaomi.livejournal.com]

I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of things I think Obama's done that went far enough to support his progressive base, but I'll take this one with gratitude.

[danceswithlife]

Let's hope he enforces THIS and isn't just doing it as a crumb thrown to the progressives.

[thistlethorn.livejournal.com]

About damn time.

[vettecat.livejournal.com]

Thanks for sharing the news!

[ashnistrike.livejournal.com]

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