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The Wisconsin GOP is ignoring a judicial restraining order and acting as though their union-busting "budget repair" bill is law.

Just go read it. It'll flatten your mind.

A few years ago, I posted a lengthy screed in which I insisted that Republicans were evil. I took a fair amount of heat for it, but I stood and still stand by it, although I've amended my attitude to limit the declaration of evilness to the Republican leadership.

But even I can't believe the shit they're pulling day in, day out.

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Date: 2011-03-26 08:25 pm (UTC)
wednes: (Shaun/Beatin')
From: [personal profile] wednes
Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot.
Seriously...

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Date: 2011-03-26 02:35 am (UTC)
mtgat: (Work Harder)
From: [personal profile] mtgat
Is contempt of court an actionable offense? Can the police chief arrest them now?

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Date: 2011-03-26 02:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nagasvoice.livejournal.com
I believe it is an actionable offense. I don't know if this would vary from state to state on what appropriate actions can be taken for such an offense.

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Date: 2011-03-26 03:09 am (UTC)
kengr: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kengr
Alas, it may not be legal to arrest them. There are certain degrees of immunity you get by being in Congress or the state legislature (laws vary from state to state). The idea ois to prevent folks from preventing legislators from doing their joobs by arresting them.

This, obviously isn't that. But depending on the wording of the laws involved, it could get messy.

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Date: 2011-03-26 03:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nagasvoice.livejournal.com
Very true. And it is going to get ugly, I'm sure.

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Date: 2011-03-26 02:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maiac.livejournal.com
I read some discussion of legislative immunity when the Thugs tried to have the absent Democratic Senators arrested for, oh, I dunno, lèse majesté or high treason or breathing while Democrat or something like that. I don't think the Republicans can be arrested for defying a court order. I can hope there are hefty civil penalties, however. I also suspect showing such contempt for law won't get the judge on their side for the lawsuit over their vote on the bill.

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Date: 2011-03-28 04:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] holzman.livejournal.com
True, however there are people who are not legislators who can be arrested if they try to act as if it is law in the face of a judicial stay.

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Date: 2011-03-26 01:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zibblsnrt.livejournal.com
Seeing as IOKIYAR, I doubt any actions will be taken.

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Date: 2011-03-26 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] palenoue.livejournal.com
IHNIWYASPSUA

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Date: 2011-03-26 03:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pingback-bot.livejournal.com
User [livejournal.com profile] nagasvoice referenced to your post from No title (http://nagasvoice.livejournal.com/391794.html) saying: [...] repair" bill is law. When it demonstrably isn't. http://filkertom.livejournal.com/1347554.html [...]

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Date: 2011-03-26 03:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smallship1.livejournal.com
Nobody is going to get arrested except the pro-union protesters.

I just re-read those two pieces in which Tom talked about Bush being tried at the Hague, and I said in a comment that unless America went down in blood and fire, when Bush got out of office he would just go on the celebrity golf and chat show circuit. Well, I don't know if he plays golf, but he's been on Oprah; we saw the trailer, in which this tiny fraction of a man, who got gifted with a job he didn't deserve and to which he was not entitled and made a spectacular mess of doing it, gets to make jokes about the eight years of his presidential term.

Conservative politicians are above the law, everywhere in the world. Always have been, always will be, till the people take over the government and make some fairer laws. Believe it.

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Date: 2011-03-26 03:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nagasvoice.livejournal.com
Bleaaargh, now that really does taste bad in my mouth. Makes you want to ask Oprah how often she likes having war criminals on her show, but hey, her loss if nobody wants to see him talking.

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Date: 2011-03-26 04:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] delazan.livejournal.com
Dude, I'm living this because a. I live in Wisconsin, and b. I'm a public sector employee. Yes, the Repugnants are ignoring any law that gets in the way of their agenda. Mercifully, we have plenty of home-grown opposition here, too. While neither of the Fitzgeralds (one brother is in charge of the senate, the other in charge of the assembly) nor Governor Wanker are eligible for recall for another year, plans already are in the works to get rid of them. Not only that, they've pissed off enough people state- and nation-wide that people are seeing the true colors of the Repugnants and the Tea Party. They only care about the rich and the rest of us had better tithe up to them.

Keep an eye on the April 5 election here for State Supreme Court. I'll bet the pay I'll lose to Wanker's Budget Despair Bill that Kloppenberg whoops Prosser's @$$ because his campaign has said he'll be a great "compliment" (note the wrong form of the word) to the Wanker administration.

Yes, they've gone too far, and we are reigning them in.
-L.

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Date: 2011-03-26 06:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nagasvoice.livejournal.com
Thank you, you make me feel better!

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Date: 2011-03-26 03:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] awfulhorrid.livejournal.com
You know I'm living this too, although not quite as directly as you are. Pretty much every time I hear about more of this, I think of you and WGH.

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Date: 2011-03-26 09:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] qnofhrt.livejournal.com
Yes, they've gone too far, and we are reigning them in.

I'm sure many people would like to do things far worse to them.

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Date: 2011-03-26 05:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pondside.livejournal.com
You know... the last few months every time I read a new proclamation from those folksy folks who are going to fix your country I get a burning headache and have to stop myself from smashing my head into cement walls... yep this is another one.

I can't cast off because our countries are attached and I love many people in the US but boy it's tempting to cast off the lines and float away to a safe distance.

A Concerned Canamerican

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Date: 2011-03-26 06:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nagasvoice.livejournal.com
Sorry about your migraine, there. And I'm just as concerned about the government there, too, because the same forces are trying to get away with this same stuff!!

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Date: 2011-03-26 11:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] banjoplayinnerd.livejournal.com
I occasionally joke that if someone would somehow sponsor me into immediate Canadian citizenship I would gladly vote against Harper, or Gordon Brown, or whoever the headache of the week is.

Many jokes have an element of truth to them. Just sayin'.

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Date: 2011-04-20 09:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pondside.livejournal.com
Oh yeah and we have a real quandry this election. Do we vote for who we want to vote for locally knowing that it won't help the country one little bit or do we vote for the "other" party because anything is better than Harper...

Yep, my migraine is growing...

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Date: 2011-03-26 07:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] randwolf.livejournal.com
These people have no respect for law--old news. This is a branches-of-government conflict, and it may turn on things like...the union personnel who are going to have to implement this law.

BTW, check out historian Prof. William Cronon on the people behind these laws (http://scholarcitizen.williamcronon.net/2011/03/15/alec/).

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Date: 2011-03-26 02:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maiac.livejournal.com
I have also said outright that the Republicans are evil, and gotten grief for it. But they are. The evidence is all around us, from union-busting to mass disenfranchisement by means legal and illegal to elimination of funding for anything that helps nonrich people survive. They are deliberately tearing down everything good about our country. If there are any non-evil Republicans, they're not doing enough to rein in the evil to be worth our consideration.

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Date: 2011-03-26 02:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alverant.livejournal.com
The Reps seem hell bent on silencing anyone who doesn't support them. We see it in their union-busting (which traditionally supported Democrats), defunding NPR and PBS (which stays neutral supporting neither side), and now they're going after William Cronon, a professor of history at the University of Wisconsin who wrote an op-ed piece putting their anti-labor actions in a historical context (so much for freedom of speech).
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/03/hi_joe.php

It's IOKIYAR taken to the next level!

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Date: 2011-03-28 07:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alverant.livejournal.com
IOKIYAR
It's OK If You're A Republican

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Date: 2011-03-26 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alverant.livejournal.com
And following my previous post (too bad I can't edit posts), now the national GOP is going after AARP for their support of health care reform.
http://gawker.com/#!5785848/house-republicans-next-target-the-old-peoples-lobby

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Date: 2011-03-26 05:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caraig.livejournal.com
That's EXTREMELY risky. The senior/retired lobby is huge in the US, and they are just getting larger. What are the Republicans thinking? The AARP is one of the more powerful citizens' advocacy groups in the US. If they think they can take it on... :(

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Date: 2011-03-26 05:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alverant.livejournal.com
They're "thinking" that they can intimidate anyone who is disagrees with them.

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Date: 2011-03-26 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gehayi.livejournal.com
They ARE taking it on. I'm a member of AARP, and I've been getting messages about this for a while.

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Date: 2011-03-26 03:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lemmozine.livejournal.com
Well, there are a few decent people who are republicans, but 99.9999999% of them are giving the other .0000001% a bad name. If I were one of the .0000001%, I would feel compelled to disassociate myself from the ignorant racist clowns who hate America that are in control and in the majority. I have said this before, and I'll say it again: the folks who speak for the republican party in the US are quite clearly Jew-gassing, n-word lynching pointy-hooded Hitler-loving racists, and those of us who are decent, ethical human beings need to do everything we can to get them out of power and make them crawl back into the sewers they crawled out of.

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Date: 2011-03-26 11:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peachtales.livejournal.com
Remember, if you don't agree with them, you are a "dangerous lunatic out to destroy or freedom!!1!" (TM).

*sigh*

Republican=Evil

Date: 2011-03-27 06:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] writer-jack.livejournal.com
Some recent poll showed that now 51% of self identified Republicans now believe Obama is not an American citizen. Not an outstanding finding in itself, just on more scrap on the pile of self-indulgent excuses Republicans have accumulated to convince themselves that they are the only ones who hold the correct answers for leading our nation down the golden path. Just more proof that they live in a bubble that can't be pierced by logic, reason, or facts.
Climate change doesn't exist because a few professors in England altered the data. Only it was just a rumor, five different independent studies have proven that nobody altered anything, but too bad, the rumor has become cemented in conservative thought.
I could continue compiling an almost endless list but won't.
It is no surprise the Republicans in Wisconsin do as they please despite the law. They are convinced to the bone that they have the only correct answers, and they could care less if the rest of the nation ever agrees with them or not.
Even when the day comes that they are voted out, they will be sure we citizens have only hurt ourselves by replacing them. After all, they have the one true lock on wisdom.
"BUT WAIT!" you say "Not all Republicans are evil, I know some good people who belong!" Really??? Just when are these "good" people going to realize they are members of an evil organization and get out? If they are "good", are they that stupid that they can't see the dark forces gathering around them?

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Date: 2011-03-27 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kilbia.livejournal.com
I was in San Antonio last week for a funeral and I saw two different billboards asserting that Jesus would be returning on May 21st of this year.

Naturally, my first reaction was to kvetch that he *would* have to go and upstage my birthday (which is on the 22nd).

But every once in a while, my pagan-who-occasionally-forgets-to-shower self thinks she'd be okay with the second coming happening as described in Matthew 25:31-46. Even if I got sorted in with the goats for violating the First Commandment, I suspect the company I'd have there would give me enough schadenfreude to make Hell tolerable.

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Date: 2011-03-27 07:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bayushisan.livejournal.com
Honestly this move doesn't surprise me at all. Walker's already exempted the unions that supported him in the election from his union stripping bill plus there was the shady way in which it was voted into law. About the only thing people can really do to fight it is recall the republican senators and hope that their democratic opponents can beat them in the recall elections. True Walker could veto any attempt to overturn his union busting but at least people would be able to fight the good fight.

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