DOCTOR WHO Spoiler Thread

[filkertom]

Wibbly wobbly, timey wimey....

Comments

[rrcgoose.livejournal.com]

Well, now that we've completely broken down the Doctor...

Of course, I'm sure there will be much speculation of what the Doctor saw behind his door. I suspect that it's a room full of past companions, though if specifically one it would of course be Rose.

Steve-

[shadowofsummer.livejournal.com]

I assumed it would be the Doctor himself behind the door. If I had to guess at a single incarnation, I'd pick the Eighth, what with him being the one that ended the Time War by killing his entire species and all.

[siliconshaman.livejournal.com]

My theory is, given the sound of the cloister bell, would be just an empty TARDIS, slowly dying... after all, what happens to her when/if the Doctor dies.

[smparadox.livejournal.com]

I disagree - as others have pointed out, Donna came off the worst of any companion I can think of. Maybe Doctordonna in the room, or maybe Donna with smoke pouring from her ears because she remembered...

[archiver-tim.livejournal.com]

Hey! Haven't we been in that hotel? One con or another? But I'm thinking Galt House.

[redaxe.livejournal.com]

I was thinking of Deep Secret by Diana Wynne Jones, myself.

[kosaginolegion.livejournal.com]

I'm almost wondering if the Doctor's enemies are behind the last two episodes. How better to make it easier to kill someone than to make them less likely to fight back?

Also, I suspect that the thing behind his door was himself.

[shadowofsummer.livejournal.com]

I figured the same thing about the Doctor's personal Room 101. I don't see it being anyone but himself.

[celisnebula.livejournal.com]

*Sighs* I don't know which to me is sadder - that he forced them out or if, had he let them stay, their being with them could've potentially destroyed them. We really haven't seen the after affects of what a person goes through when they're done with the Doctor... except for Sarah Jane. And that was just a sad sort of comment, the life unfulfilled afterwards.

[redaxe.livejournal.com]

We haven't seen in detail, though we've had some pretty effective glimpses, from the flashes when Ten is visiting his companions (Mickey and Martha fighting the Sontarans!) to the guest shot of Jo Grant on The Sarah Jane Adventures. My impression is that nobody comes away unchanged, and that in many if not most cases, for the better. (I'd like to think that's part of the point of the series.)

I know that, given a chance, I wouldn't hesitate even a split instant in saying "yes".

[shadowofsummer.livejournal.com]

It reminded me of the movie 'Cube', except if every room had been someone's Room 101...

[redaxe.livejournal.com]

Much better than The Girl Who Waited. Lots of fun concepts, a direct reference to Old Who, and a holodeck.

Like everyone else, I think the Doctor's Room 11 probably contained himself, though I wouldn't be surprised if it contained ghosts of all the Time Lords he'd ever known and saw destroyed (by his own hand).

Getting Amy and Rory out of the TARDIS sets us up for a return to the desert, where we started the season, in a couple of episodes, no?

[bayushisan.livejournal.com]

This was actually the first episode of Doctor Who that I've seen. It was really good but the problem arises that I'm not usually home when it's on. I was thinking about looking for episodes online but downloading them presents the problem of disk space.

I'll figure something out but I will watch the earlier seasons somehow.

I'm not really sure what the Doctor saw behind his door but it was his subdued reaction that I thought was really interesting.

[smparadox.livejournal.com]

www.watch-doctor-who-online.com - This where I eventually got to watch Matt Smith's entire first season which they were not showing up here for some reason. I was able to get caught up just in time for when they did begin showing the new episodes up here, which started with the beginning of this new season.

[ann-totusek.livejournal.com]

She'll never stop waiting...

[jenrose]

Apples. What? The Doctor is suddenly eating apples. Even though they're awful.

This, more than anything, makes me scratch my head and go "hmmm."

[roane.livejournal.com]

There have been lots of little bits like this over the last few episodes. Something is up.

[siliconshaman.livejournal.com]

"For an ancient being, drenched in blood, trapped in a never-ending maze, death would come as a kind of gift.... wasn't talking about myself, not really!"

The Doctors words, spoken as the Minotaur lay dying. Foreshadowing much.

[roane.livejournal.com]

I actually thought he was translating the Minotaur's words, right down to the "wasn't talking about myself".

[roane.livejournal.com]

Every time we get a glimpse of the Doctor's self-loathing, it breaks my heart. And this half-season seems to be all about his self-loathing.

[maiac.livejournal.com]

Would someone please tell the scriptwriters that there are other emotions they can evoke in the audience besides fear and grief? Please? I'm getting really tired of this great show degenerating into hurt/comfort fanfic, only without the comfort.

[nimitzbrood.livejournal.com]

This.

Please stop relying on the first rule - The Doctor Lies.

[dragonmakr.livejournal.com]

I see the room they ended up in differently than most folks, it seems.

I think it *was* the Doctor's room. Remember that he slipped a "Do not Disturb" sign on the knob when he left the first time. When the room dissolved into the "holodeck," there was a quick shot of that sign falling from the door.

Given Amy's great faith that the Doctor would always come back, I don't think her greatest fear was that he wouldn't come. My take is that her faith in him is the Doctor's greatest fear. As he said, he's just a man.

I could also be way off base (it's happened), but on a single viewing, that's my take.

[smparadox.livejournal.com]

I really really like this interpretation.

[archiver-tim.livejournal.com]

Getting off the heavy discussion, I was disappointed that the image of the multi-colored clothing man with red clown nose and red ballon in a hotel room that we had seen in previews since before Series 6 started was just that shot in the episode.

[nimitzbrood.livejournal.com]

I still want to know if that was Matt Smith dressed in the clown suit. It looked an awful lot like him.

Waitjustadarncottonpickinminutethere...

[nimitzbrood.livejournal.com]

Something just occurred to me in all this...

I need something answered here. The previous episode did Amy end up with 36-Year-Older Amy's memories or not?

If that's the case The Doctor has just dropped off a 2000 year old Roman and a very very strong willed lady with 36 years of knowledge about sonic screwdrivers and _temporal_ _engines_.

Is anybody else bothered by this?

Re: Waitjustadarncottonpickinminutethere...

[r-caton.livejournal.com]

The Amy in the TARDIS was the younger Amy, the 36 years older Amy must have popped out of existence when the original Amy was removed from that timeline.
The Doctor should have checked before just storming onto that planet... and can't Rory keep that girl on a leash? given two buttons she'll always push the wrong one....

The Grandfather Clock

[alverant.livejournal.com]

On Cecilia Eng's album "Of Shoes & Ships" has a song called "The Grandfather Clock" which describes a Dr.Who episode. I love the song, but I'm not a Who watcher (no free time) but I'd love to see this episode. Does anyone know which episode it is?

Re: The Grandfather Clock

[aulayan.livejournal.com]

From what a brief Google Search told me, the song actually is fanfiction.

[r-caton.livejournal.com]

and Essex mediocrity at that....
eeeew.

Here's my problem...

[oceansedge.livejournal.com]

How exactly can the Doctor just drop em off home.... and there is NO ONE WORD in the emo conversation about MELODY... remember her? The baby he was supposed to be off looking for?

Don't gimme that "oh well we know now they grew up together so that makes it OK and they're not even gonna ask about THE DAUGHTER HE PROMISED TO FIND AND RETURN TO THEM"

/rant