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Date: 2011-10-11 07:37 pm (UTC)I think he took the same American History class that Sarah Palin did.
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Date: 2011-10-11 11:44 pm (UTC)I love the city next door, but hate its Mayor.
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Date: 2011-10-11 07:39 pm (UTC)If you're doing anything to avoid arrest, what you're doing is not in any way civil disobedience.
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Date: 2011-10-11 07:59 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-10-11 08:04 pm (UTC)Peaceful civil disobedience may not work in Boston.
The town has a much longer and more effective history of rioting.
This history goes back to the colonial days, and is featured in the 'Boston Massacre'.
But these days most people try the nicer civil disobedience route first.
It has been too long since Boston had a good non-sports related riot.
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Date: 2011-10-11 08:08 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-10-11 09:28 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-10-11 08:30 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-10-11 09:20 pm (UTC)Peaceful protests only work in systems where the government needs to pay attention to public opinion, either at home or abroad.
We've known for decades now that America doesn't give a rat's ass what people in other countries think of us... and our political system hasn't looked all too concerned with what the voters actually want in quite some time, either...
Unless the Occupiers get political, I don't think the protests will accomplish much.
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Date: 2011-10-11 09:24 pm (UTC)Granted, the mayor's trying like hell to turn parkland into penthouses, and he gives blatantly illegal preferential treatment to his buddies, but STILL.
Either Boston's reputation is ill-deserved (and I admit this may be the case), or one hell of a lot of voters have dropped the ball continuing to elect Mayor-for-Life Mumbles.
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Date: 2011-10-12 03:40 am (UTC)For all that one party had ruled the city and the state rather effectively for at least my own lifetime, and probably longer, they have generally been good at running the joint - not always Constitutionally, mind, but usually so.
Boston and Massachusetts, for all of the warts, tell me that I much prefer Democratic single-party rule to the other side. But no, I am not blind to the warts; and this recent thing is definitely a big ol' wart. My view of Menino dropped about ten points.
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Date: 2011-10-11 10:10 pm (UTC)...
If you convince the public that *civil* disobedience won't work, you better be ready for the ride that will come next.
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Date: 2011-10-11 11:39 pm (UTC)And yeah, civil disobedience is a royal pain in the butt. But the only *legitimate* way of dealing with it is to follow the laws *scrupulously* when you arrest the protestors.
Instead, he flouts the laws just as badly and thus does *exactly* what civil disobedience aims for. Namely, making the public decide that the government really *is* out of line.
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Date: 2011-10-11 11:58 pm (UTC)(BTW I'm still in Madison, WI, where one of our favorite chants last spring was "The people... united... will never be defeated!")
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Date: 2011-10-12 02:49 am (UTC)This comes 30 years too late for my mother, who was perpetually shamed by them for the fact that her family reached those shores in the early 1900's instead of the early 1600's.
Pardon me while I step aside and spit.
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Date: 2011-10-12 05:11 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-10-12 11:41 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-10-12 04:35 pm (UTC)Like every other government that there is or has ever been.