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Nov. 9th, 2004 11:38 am
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I am hand-labelling one buttload of CDs right now. Four database and labelling programs, all claiming to use the same formats, and they either won't import or export each other or won't frickin' print. Avery's DesignPro uses dBase III format. Feh.

Have fun, play nice.

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Date: 2004-11-09 08:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] janetmiles.livejournal.com
You have my sympathy. dBase III? Sheesh!

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Date: 2004-11-09 09:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] filkertom.livejournal.com
The worst part was that I got the Windows Address Book file to read easily into Open Office, the Sun-financed no-cost open-source MS Office alternative that has never given me a problem before. Designed the labels, hit the print button... and suddenly it couldn't talk to my printer. It said the printer was there when I went into Setup, but the damn Labels module, or whatever, wouldn't talk to it. I went berserk for an hour before giving up.

If I'd spent all the time I spent trying to get the stupid Address Book to print in any of several programs, I'd have had all the labels done by now by hand.

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Date: 2004-11-09 09:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkwolf69.livejournal.com
Well, we all know why the call it dBase... *winces, bracing for impact*

Can I ask what programs you're using? (Mostly out of a sense of professional curiosity, being a paid geek...)

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Date: 2004-11-09 09:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkwolf69.livejournal.com
Be nice if I could *type* today. s/the call/they call/

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Date: 2004-11-09 09:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arensb.livejournal.com
I don't think Tom can bop you for using that pun, seeing as how he used it himself, IIRC. And if he didn't, he's certainly stooped lower.

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Date: 2004-11-09 09:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkwolf69.livejournal.com
Actually, the reason I was expecting to be bonked was for throwing the pun back at him. ;)

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Date: 2004-11-09 09:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] filkertom.livejournal.com
Stooped lower? I crawled on my belly down to the sewer, found the nasty dank pit, and dug my way lower. :)

Insert Obligatory Whappety-Whap-Whap-Whap Here

Date: 2004-11-09 09:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] filkertom.livejournal.com
Avery DesignPro (free download version), OpenOffice 1.1.2 (haven't installed 1.1.3 yet), the Address Book that comes with XP. XP w/SP1.

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Date: 2004-11-09 09:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unclelumpy.livejournal.com
I gritted my teeth and shelled out the $60 for Looney Tunes Golden Collection vol.2 last nite.

It features commentary on "The Great Piggy-Bank Robbery" by John Kricfalusi...

Happy Fanboy!

Plus, it has "Book Revue"...

"Nothing could be FEE-ner zen to be in Caro-LEE-ner in ze morrrrrrr-NINK!"

Looney Tunes #2

Date: 2004-11-09 11:45 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] hms42
$60? I paid $41 over at Costco. They wanted the same for the 1st collection too.

Harold S.

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Date: 2004-11-09 09:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thepiercedrose.livejournal.com
I told you I could have done it in Access, and it has all the Avery Sizes already installed..... Heck, it's not like I didn't used to do it for a living or anything....... ;)

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Date: 2004-11-09 10:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] filkertom.livejournal.com
Like I said, the problem I'm having is that the stupid OpenOffice program, which has worked for everything else I've ever thrown at it, suddenly didn't want to print. It recognized the printer. While it was open, I opened Notepad and printed something to prove that the computer was indeed still speaking to the printer.

Gaaaah.

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Date: 2004-11-09 10:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thepiercedrose.livejournal.com
Hrm..... note to self: open office (once I switch to Linux) and lables don't play nice together. Must find the .dll files and make Microsoft Office play nice on Linux because I have yet to find a suitable substitute for Access.

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Date: 2004-11-09 10:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkwolf69.livejournal.com
Mysql? Postgresql? Sqlite? BerkeleyDB? Flat Files? Bashing myself in the head repeatedly with the business end of a lightsaber? ;)

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Date: 2004-11-09 10:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thepiercedrose.livejournal.com
Topher (I know, I was listening to Topher and that should have been a clue) told me there was no datbase program in open office and that if I wanted to do anything related to databases I'd have to manage to keep the M$ Office Suite.

If there's something that'll run on Linux that'll open the .mdb files from Access then I should be fine using that. However, I have about zero desire to rebuild all the databases simply because I've changed platforms.

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Date: 2004-11-09 11:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] filkertom.livejournal.com
Ummm... that would be that big honkin' Spreadsheet module, and the Database management subsystem, and, and, and....

Eeyup. That's our Topher! :-/

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Date: 2004-11-09 12:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thepiercedrose.livejournal.com
Yeah well, I can't put Linx on my system until March or so when work finally gets rid of the DOS based program we use. I'll be so happy when they get it all web based thru here!

And I will have small bits of sympathy for Topher, he just had his galbladder taken out today and his father needs a pacemaker, but they're going to make the man with only 15% of his heart working wait three months before they'll put it in. For that I'll be kind and not grump too much.

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Date: 2004-11-09 11:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkwolf69.livejournal.com
Oh, you already have systems in place using Access? That'd be a problem, then. I've never tried to do anything like converting from Access to an open source DBMS[1], so I don't have much useful to say there. I was thinking more in terms of things I'd rather use than Access for something new.

Who is this "Topher"?

[1] I don't consider Access to be a Real database management system, but you can probably write that up to sheer snobbery on my part.

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Date: 2004-11-09 12:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thepiercedrose.livejournal.com
Access is the only data base I've ever used. There's prolly a better one out there, but this is the one Borders sent me to classes for and I'm still pretty good at it so I've got TONS of things set up thru it right now.

And "Topher" is my former (thank the gods) room mate. Who looked over my shoulder at the blue w/yellow letters program we use at work when I was home one night and then told me he'd written some of the code for that program. Er, yeah. Last I knew he hadn't written anything that was DOS based.....

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Date: 2004-11-09 11:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] filkertom.livejournal.com
I think the problem is more in the printer config. I don't know how. Creating the labels was pretty easy, once I figured out what the instructions were talking about. (I've gotta get certified as a tech writer. I already think I'm qualified, though I've had no formal training -- just all those years of explaining stuff over the phone to sweet old ladies, and all those RPG rules I wrote and rewrote Way Back When....)

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Date: 2004-11-09 11:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] filkertom.livejournal.com
Which would be great if I was running Linux. Which I'm not. Thanks, though.

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Date: 2004-11-09 10:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thepiercedrose.livejournal.com
On a likened note, would prolly be better for me to come find you on Wednesday then you walking away from the 40 million lables you must now hand write?? I need to head out that way to attack the Credit Union anyway....

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Date: 2004-11-09 11:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] monkey0science.livejournal.com
On a topic unrelated to anything, really...on what CD would I find The Heat of the Blood?

I adore it, y'see...

Heat of the Blood

Date: 2004-11-09 11:48 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] hms42
According to Tom's lyric page, its on - Digital Acoustic Compilation

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Date: 2004-11-09 11:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] filkertom.livejournal.com
Two things regarding that song. First, I don't have any DigAComps right now. CDBaby has them, as do Random Factors, Firebird Arts & Music, and probably DAG and Mike Liebmann. I think Juanita had some, but she doesn't do stuff online. Bill is planning to reprint them soon, possibly after a remix.

Second... you might be interested in the new CD. ;)

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Date: 2004-11-09 01:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jedilora.livejournal.com
(another HotB fan)

What? ATSIGT?

(frantically re-checks the downloaded version)
(hopes senior moments don't start before 25)

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Date: 2004-11-09 02:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] filkertom.livejournal.com
No, no. The bonus track.

Tee hee.

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Date: 2004-11-09 05:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jedilora.livejournal.com
Yay!

::begins watching mailbox::

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Date: 2004-11-09 01:29 pm (UTC)
billroper: (Default)
From: [personal profile] billroper
And I will send whatever I have left to Tom after this weekend...

(But I want to survive WindyCon first. :) )

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Date: 2004-11-09 08:29 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] hms42
I believe Kathy Sands (Tales from the White Hart) has the CD in stock to. They are email and con only. I did relay word to her and to Eric at Dag about the new CD being in stock. (Eric mentioned he already ordered his CDs for filk.com)

Harold

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Date: 2004-11-10 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] autumnreign.livejournal.com
Forgive the interruption but, how might one aquire this new cd?

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Date: 2004-11-10 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] filkertom.livejournal.com
That would involve going to my site (http://www.tomsmithonline.com/buystuff.htm#albums) and ordering it. :)

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Date: 2004-11-10 07:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] autumnreign.livejournal.com
Ok, Thank you!

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Date: 2004-11-09 11:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] titaniablue.livejournal.com
the brighter note is that these will one day be collectors items!

"wow! you have a hand-labelled Tom Smith? ooooh! is it signed? i'm so jealous!"

hey, it could happen!

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Date: 2004-11-09 01:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firedrake-mor.livejournal.com
I am hand-labelling one buttload of CDs right now.

Is that an English buttload, a Metric buttload, or some Tom Smith-derived variant thereof?

As for dBase III, I wasn't aware anyone still used it! I last programmed for that in, um, 1990 . . .
From: [identity profile] filkertom.livejournal.com
I have seen more arcane, ancient, obsolete file formats today than I have since my Amiga days. And now I remember why I despise database programs. They all want you to use their proprietary formats, methods, and terminology. Unlike pretty much any other program I can think of, a db wants you to do it their way, because they're oh so right....

I repeat. Feh.

Light Sails at Last

Date: 2004-11-10 02:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] janet-coburn.livejournal.com
I just had to pass this link along. It's way cool.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/space/11/10/solar.sail.ap/index.html

Makes me want to listen to the Black Book Band and Michael Longcor.

Don Knots as Dubya

Date: 2004-11-10 04:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thingunderthest.livejournal.com
Anybody seen this yet.

http://www.dubyamovie.com/

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