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Date: 2005-12-12 09:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tfabris.livejournal.com
Favorite quote from that rant:

“We’re not allowed to say ‘Merry Christmas’ anymore!” Are you fucking kidding me? Knock yourself out. Say it at work, scream it in your high school lunch room, hell, tattoo it on your fucking forehead for all we care. Guess who’s gonna be there defending your right to do every one of those things? The fucking ACLU. One of these days you bastards are going to drive those fuckers out of business, and then you’ll see some actual attacks on your religious liberties.

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Date: 2005-12-13 04:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hitchkitty.livejournal.com
These are the same people who insist that, if they're not allowed to make everyone's kids pray in school, then their civil liberties are being trampled.

These are the same people who insist that the legalization of gay marriage would destroy their freedome of religion.

These are the people, in short, who believe they have a Gawd-Given Right to the entire fucking planet, and anything less is a grievous assault.

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Date: 2005-12-12 09:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tibicina.livejournal.com
Oh that's beautiful.

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Date: 2005-12-12 09:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ororo.livejournal.com
A little vitriolic, but there's not a point I disagree with.

Fucking Christmas...

Date: 2005-12-12 10:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eibii.livejournal.com
... would result in tinsel stuck in uncomfortable places. But wow, awesome rant.

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Date: 2005-12-12 10:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unclelumpy.livejournal.com
And yet I'M the one who's a "moonbat consipracy-theorist" when I suggest that pre-war intelligence was tampered with.

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Date: 2005-12-12 11:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trdsf.livejournal.com
Huzzah! It might not have been calm, but it was--unlike the typical Faux News piece--true.

Fuck Christmas

Date: 2005-12-13 01:29 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] danceswithlife
Wow, Tom, what a primo rant. I enjoyed every syllable

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Date: 2005-12-13 02:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hiddenkrypt.livejournal.com
Hell Yes.

Awesome Rant.

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Date: 2005-12-13 04:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wwetuesday.livejournal.com
I'll be the killjoy here, I guess, and go against the grain.

I don't agree with what most of the article says. Mostly becasue I believe political correctness is ruining Christmas. But that's a completely different issue entirely.

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Date: 2005-12-13 04:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valkyrwench.livejournal.com
*applause*

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Date: 2005-12-13 08:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sarahtoalaska.livejournal.com
I don't have a problem with seeing a tree set up somewhere. Not one bit. I don't even mind it being called a Christmas tree... because you're right Tom... it's not. I do have an issue with being told Marry Christmas by everyone. Oh.. I know they mean well, but it must be really nice to be living in a world were you can be self assured that you can say that and not only will the person know what you are talking about, they won't think you are crazy. I Happy Yule people, confuses the heck out of them. I worked at a cookie place once where we had to decorate large cookies. When I asked my boss if I could make a Yule demo cookie to put in the window with all the Christmas cookies she told me she didn't think that was a good idea. I said that was fine, but that I couldn't be expected to make any Christmas Cookies. I got my cookie. All it said was Happy Yule in Pretty colors. But I got several compliments.
Heaven forbid even one Christian should go more than an hour and a half without hearing Merry Christmas during Decenber. (Or Nov. now)
Thanks Tom for saying what I've not had the words to say.

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Date: 2005-12-13 01:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smallship1.livejournal.com
I have agreed with some of the same sentiments expressed in more moderate language. To say that Christmas is a pagan festival is to say that Britain belongs to the Welsh; it's ignoring two thousand years of history. Which you're welcome to do, but, um, what are you doing on that continent that doesn't belong to you?

If the writer of that piece is free to pepper his writings with fucks and shits and metaphorically grab me by the lapels and spray me with spittle while he bellows in my face, then I consider myself and anyone else free by the same token to use whatever seasonal greeting we please, or none at all. I don't believe Christians are being oppressed, but I feel oppressed by that piece of writing, and instantly inclined to disagree with it simply because of its tone and vocabulary. I do not, however, try to suggest that the writer should not use whatever language he feels necessary to express his feelings. As I am doing when I say "Merry Christmas."

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Date: 2005-12-13 01:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
I'm surprised he didn't mention that the megachurches are shutting *themselves* down on Christmas Sunday, since they don't think anyone will come. Because, as we all know, the heart of Christmas is in what they say at Target, not what they do in church...

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Date: 2005-12-15 05:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] min0taur.livejournal.com
I get a similarly intense reaction to the complaints of the powerful that they are somehow being forced to behave as if their worldview were anything other than the only true version of reality. Perhaps they're just being "daring" by their lights; it's as if they *want* us to grab their lapels and roar at 'em so they can feel more like the early martyrs -- without having to be nailed to a torture device, skewered by enslaved athletes, or thrown to starved predators as entertainment for ... well ... the privileged. They ain't *seen* persecution anything like what they dish out from the one-up position. They know it (unless they've successfully brainwashed themselves to think otherwise), and we know it. And I rather suspect that they also know how provoking it is when they cry wolf. Great way to start another skirmish -- and here comes the high-stress holiday season, bristling with sacrosanct traditions just waiting to be remade as hot buttons. War on Christmas? Is waking up to -- and making room for -- religious diversity really that threatening? Maybe so, for those with an unconscious -- and unfair -- hegemony to lose; if they can get the brouhaha sold as a "war," then they can also sell the idea that somebody has to "win" -- and become even more warlike. Funny how that works.

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