Truth to tell, I never really "got" Miller. He goes in the category of "important to the genre, but I'll never understand why", along with Tolkien and Heinlein. My concern is that he'll capture all of Eisner's grit and none of the charm...
That is absolutely the problem as I see it. Miller's big contribution to American comics is the introduction of a film-noir violence unlike anything seen in the mainstream stuff to that point. I have problems when he takes it over the top, because he becomes a self-parody. But when he's on, I feel the only creator who can match his chops is Matt Wagner... and Wagner does have the charm.
Precisely. Eeugh. Before All Star Batman and Robin, I would've been less worried, even with the evidence of The Dark Knight Strikes Again and Sin City, because they're pretty much Miller's universes. But ASB&R was ostensibly canon-ish. And it was pathetically, nastily bad.
One can only imagine Grant Morrison or Peter David's take on The Spirit... ;)
Anyway, yes. Part of what makes The Spirit work is that whirl from gritty reality to sheer lunacy--all of it done noir, of course, but with the right touch--say, Will Eisner's, for example--even noir can be goofy.
I'd feel better about the project if someone with proven chops on the lighter side were involved. To really work, this movie doesn't have to be dark. It has to be pulpy.
Yeah, after I posted, I thought about that... I pretty much stopped reading comics almost ten years ago (which means I'm due to start again, it's cyclical that way) and PAD was one of my favorite writers then. Maybe Miller and David can co-write. :)
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Date: 2006-07-20 04:42 am (UTC)He could've said "I'm the Juggernaut, bitch!"
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Date: 2006-07-19 05:34 pm (UTC)Anyway, yes. Part of what makes The Spirit work is that whirl from gritty reality to sheer lunacy--all of it done noir, of course, but with the right touch--say, Will Eisner's, for example--even noir can be goofy.
I'd feel better about the project if someone with proven chops on the lighter side were involved. To really work, this movie doesn't have to be dark. It has to be pulpy.
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Date: 2006-07-19 11:37 pm (UTC)Actually, I think PAD would do great with it - have you read his Fallen Angel series (both the DC run and the current IDW series)?
Grant Morrison, OTOH...somehow a post-modern, self-aware, surrealistic version of Denny Colt & Co. just doesn't make me all warm and fuzzy inside :)
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