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Another one of those odd occasions when I agree with Pat Buchanan. And Chris Matthews. Who'da thunk?

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Date: 2006-07-21 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] archanglrobriel.livejournal.com
What does it say about the world that Pat Buchanan is now the voice of reason?
I don't even like to think about it.
Wenever I agree with Pat Buchanan my stomach hurts.

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Date: 2006-07-21 03:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] giza.livejournal.com
Wow. Yeah. Buchanan really hit the nail on the head about Israel going after civilians. I'm impressed.

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Date: 2006-07-21 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bigtig.livejournal.com
Yeah, I heard about Pat yesterday.

Someone will be reporting a cold front with snow-shower activites heading across the ninth ring any day now...

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Date: 2006-07-21 03:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] filkertom.livejournal.com
Ummm... they would anyway. The Ninth Circle's most prominent geographic feature is the frozen lake Cocytus.

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Date: 2006-07-21 03:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emiofbrie.livejournal.com
**Emi puts on 3D glasses to make sure she isn't covered in "void stuff"..."

Did I just slide or something?

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Date: 2006-07-21 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] palenoue.livejournal.com
What next? Buchanan complaining against the neocons for ignoring global warming? When things are so bad even Pat seems reasonable, you know you've hit a historical low point.

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Date: 2006-07-21 04:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shsilver.livejournal.com
A good take on Buchanan is here.

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Date: 2006-07-21 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beldar.livejournal.com
I thought at first you were talking about this. I also read his previous column published on Yahoo, on relations with Russia, which also made sense.

It is sad that we've gone so far overboard that this man is the voice of reason, though that will change once the topic changes to something that triggers his bigotry.

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Date: 2006-07-21 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unclelumpy.livejournal.com
Don't be fooled.

WE don't want to fight Israel's war because we hate war.
THEY don't want to fight Israel's war because they hate Jews.

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Date: 2006-07-21 06:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] filkertom.livejournal.com
Without doubt. But, given how screwed up the world has become, now and again I'll take someone doing the right thing for the wrong reasons.

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Date: 2006-07-21 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unclelumpy.livejournal.com
Also, don't forget this is an election year, so naturally a lot of right-wing pundits are going to rally against an unpopular president in the hopes it will get more votes for their candidates....

Only to fall lock-step into place like good little duckies after they've won.

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Date: 2006-07-21 04:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jonnorthwood.livejournal.com
Good lord. You're right.

I'm in the 'wow, Pat and Chris are spot-on' camp, too, it seems.

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Date: 2006-07-21 05:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trdsf.livejournal.com
I file it under "Even a stopped clock is right twice a day." That of course means Dumbass is a digital watch--in the dark and never right.

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Date: 2006-07-21 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liddle-oldman.livejournal.com
I currently find myself agreeing with John Dean -- "These people aren't conservatives! They're radical fascists!"

What the hell is the world coming to? If the center has moved so far that John Dean, Pat Buchannen, you and I are on the same side of it?

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Date: 2006-07-22 03:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trdsf.livejournal.com
Dean (fellow alumnus of mine, oddly enough, though many years earlier) was never a fire-breathing right-wing attack dog--fundamentally, he was a young lawyer who got in way over his head on a fluke. Buchanan was and still is a fire-breathing right-wing attack dog, of course. It's not that the center has moved that far right--it's that Dumbass has moved so far off the deep end that even the classic Kool-Ade drinkers are starting to wave the cup off. Remember, when Buchanan endorsed Kerry, it was an endorsement of replacing a hated incumbent, not a change of political heart.

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Date: 2006-07-22 01:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] avt-tor.livejournal.com
Buchanan is an isolationist. He doesn't care how many human beings die, he only cares about how many Americans die.

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Date: 2006-07-22 08:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dadandgirl.livejournal.com
But isn't that the view that an American political figure would sometimes have to take? You can't save everybody, and there are some people who mean more to you than others. A simple truth - I wouldn't sacrifice my child's life to save yours. Does that make me a monster?

I think Buchanan is scary for the vitriol he spews against anybody who isn't a middle class white Christian male, not for his isolationism. I just think that sometimes isolationism is a mistake: If you turn your back on the world, you'll never see the threats creeping up on you from that direction.

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