Wouldn't It Be Nice

[filkertom]

The US still isn't backing a cease-fire between Israel and Lebanon.

Again, apart from the issues and politics of the entire struggle, apart from the ethnic and regional background... WHY ARE WE NOT ENCOURAGING THEM NOT TO KILL EACH OTHER!? Where's your fucking "culture of life", Chimpy, you swine? You can veto stem cell research to no good purpose because you obviously have no clue about the actual issues involved, have your spokesman berate the press corps for trying to nail down your position on it, send your Chief of Staff to make an ass of himself on national TV because he's as stupid and uninformed as you... but you can't be bothered to ask that the Israelis and Hizbollah not blow each other and everyone in their immediate vicinity to bloody wads.

So, tell me, Bush supporters: Why do you support this man, these policies? Do you like the smell of collateral damage in the morning? Does it smell like victory? How aren't you evil, if you keep supporting a man who claims to want peace, but won't push for a cease-fire?

It's a good day to call your Congresscritter and have them kick some warmongering two-faced chimp ass.

Comments

[morpheus0013.livejournal.com]

I do understand what you're saying, and I even think to an extent you're correct. I just fail to see how NOT backing a cease-fire agreement changes any of that, nor how backing it would make any of that worse. I'm also not convinced that a brief cease-fire wouldn't at least open a window of opportunity to do SOMETHING--what, I'm not certain. I can't help thinking that part of the reason they think the US doesn't have the will is because we don't do things like back cease-fire agreements.

I'm certainly not under the impression that a cease-fire will work in the long-term, or even much past a day or two. I'm just boggled at the arrogance of not backing one, and utterly confused as to the problem with doing so. Sometimes, keeping up appearances is in the best interest of the world.

A cease fire is a bad idea

[zachkessin.livejournal.com]

To be blunt if the US tried to impose a cease fire I would hope that the Israeli government* would tell them where to stick it. If a cease fire was imposed right now Hesbullah would take their remaining rockets (of which the probably have quite a few) hunker down and rearm care of Iran. Israel would then be facing this whole bloody mess over again in a few years, but next time Hesbullah would have even more rockets and probably more long range ones. So in addition to hitting Haifa and Nahariah the rockets would be hitting Tel Aviv and Petach Tikva.

I would pose this question to you? What would you want the USA to do if an enemy power which had repeatedly called for the destruction of the USA started shooting missiles in large numbers at an American city?

Re: A cease fire is a bad idea

[zachkessin.livejournal.com]

Note the Isareli government at this moment is mostly secular and center to left wing. Not right wing and religious

Re: A cease fire is a bad idea

[morpheus0013.livejournal.com]

I make a distinction between "imposing" and "supporting." Which renders a great deal of your question moot.

Also, your question is rendered moot by the implication that the US and Israel would be comparable in this situation. In the scenario you laid out, they would not be, as you did not indicate the US had shown any aggression whatsoever. Had the US done so, then the question changes.

By not supporting a cease fire that would apply to both sides, one in effect says, "I don't care who you kill or how much." And that is terribly, terribly wrong.

Re: A cease fire is a bad idea

[morpheus0013.livejournal.com]

In retrospect, I should add that I do not hold Israel completely to blame in the situation. I realized when I thought again that it sounded like I did, and I certainly don't.

I just want people to stop exploding. That's all I want.

Re: A cease fire is a bad idea

[antongarou.livejournal.com]

That's all we want, too.But they won't stop exploding(on and off) until Hizzbullah is disarmed, which an immediate ceasefire won't achieve.Israeli terms for a ceasefire were known from day one. These terms are reasonable by any standards. I would love to see the country, that, if attacked in a way Israel was, does not demand that similar terms are met. But I would not like to be a citizen of such a country, or even visit it briefly: too dangerous.