Dreams Of Noise

You should see it. It's really very good.

And I'm sorry, but my generation now sees Annette O'Toole as Martha Kent because of "Smallville", so when you made that comment about her hotness, I got a major case of the jibblies.

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Dude. Cat People. Annette O'Toole and Nastassia Kinski.

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*Jibblies*

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thatcrazycajun.livejournal.com

I have seen Ms. O'Toole in SMALLVILLE, and saw her in the SUPERMAN films and many others before that. And I happen to think she is *still* pretty damn hot. (If you'd seen her in the formal gown she wore for a power-broker ball in a recent episode, you would too.)

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No argument. Pretty delish in Stephen King's It, too.

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I'm sorry, Marth Kent CANNOT be a MILF.

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drzarron.livejournal.com

Utterly silly movie.. but hubba hubba on the hottie scale

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You should see it. It's really very good.

I disagree completely. It was Superman Reheated. Especially damning because

Tom, since you've acknowledged you're a huge Supes fan, I guess you'll see it eventually...but I wouldn't pay money for it.

I am curious about the Donner Superman II, though.

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...this is what happens when I let my brain and my fingers go at different speeds. Especially damning, as I was saying, because there had been such a rush of superior DC comics movies and TV. Batman Begins, the entire DCAU (but mostly Justice League Unlimited)...

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I must say, the things you've cited were superior. No argument there. But I saw Superman for the first time (as an adult) hours before I saw Superman Returns. They were very different movies.

Superman seemed to focus mainly on the "Gee Whiz" factor half the time. An explosion here, a super power here, and classic dialogue in between. A very good movie, no doubt. However, my biggest problems were Lex Luthor and his bumbling sidekick. They just didn't do it for me. Too cheesy. After seeing Lex in DCAU and Smallville, I knew that there was so much more to him than what Gene Hackman did. And his sidekick was never funny. Just annoying.

And even when I was a kid, I could tell that Superman turning back time to save the day was stupid for two reasons: 1) If you could turn back time, I doubt making the Earth spin backwards would do it and 2) If it was forbidden, why didn't any bad stuff happen because he did it? Seemed like turning back the clock solved all his problems.

Now Superman Returns was much more serious. Lois was no longer the corky reporter; she was a mom. Superman has issues to deal with. Issues he doesn't solve just by flexing his muscles. If anything, his abilities make it more difficult for him to do some of the things he does. Lex Luthor was done brilliantly. Kevin Spacey was perfect casting in my opinion. He was far more vile. His monologues and dialogue was much better. He had much more depth than in the original Superman. I loved that.

My only complaint was the the movie was a bit slow. It could have used some tighter editing and better pacing, particularly towards the end. Also the woman who played Lois could have been casted better. That's pretty much it.

In my opinion, they're both really good movies and they're both very different movies in both their tone and approach to the characters.

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Sorry, I only saw this post now. Trouble with LiveJournal's notification system, I guess.

My problem with Superman Returns was that it really felt smaller and simpler; far too derivative of the original movie of Superman without exploring some of the better directions the source material has gone into. Lex was a great example--as much as I liked Spacey's performance, it really was Spacey doing Gene Hackman doing Lex Luthor. Spacey doing the Clancy Brown Lex would have been far more interesting to me.

I'd go into this in more detail, but this is Tom's LiveJournal, after all...

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blackpaladin.livejournal.com

Superman Returns was fun (especially watching it in IMAX 3D!!), but I agree with most of the reviewers that Clark and Lois had almost no on-screen chemistry. Not qute as bad as the Christensen/Portman Debacles, but you get the point.

> What's on your just-in-time-for-the-holidays DVD wish list?
* West Wing Season 7
* Animaniacs Vol. 2
* Dungeons & Dragons: The Complete Animated Series
* Voltron Vol. 2
* Da Vinci Code (hey, I liked it!)
* Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest
* Please Twins! Complete Collection

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* Dungeons & Dragons: The Complete Animated Series
HA! They released this?!? I was just talking about that thing with my wife yesterday and verifying that I can still successfully impersonate that damned unicorn's "MEHHHH!" noise.

Voltron Vol. 2
**SPOILER ALERT!!**
EVIL GUY: Let's create an evil monster thing!
OTHER EVIL GUY: Neat!
(they do)

EVIL MONSTER THING: RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWRR!!!
PEOPLE IN LIONS: Oh no, an evil monster thing! Let's fight it with our stupid robot lions and get our asses handed to us!
(they do)

EVIL GUY: Cliche expressing inevitable victory!
GUY IN LION: Looks like we got our asses handed to us! Let's form Voltron!
OTHER GUY IN OTHER LION: Dammit, we always get our asses handed to us in lion form! Can't we just weld the lions into Voltron form so we win right off the bat instead of getting slapped around for a while first?
GUY IN LION: Quiet, you! Form feet and legs...
(they form Voltron apparently using the super high-tech chant-based user interface)

GUY IN LION: Form blazing sword!
OTHER GUY IN OTHER LION: "Guy In Lion" sounds totally perverted.
GUY IN LION: Oh, like "Other Guy In Other Lion" is complete Disney material.
(they beat the crap out of the evil monster thing.)

EVIL GUY: Expression of rage regarding failure!

(Replace "Lion" with "Car" as needed.)
*** END SPOILER ALERT ***

-=ShoEboX=-

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rook543.livejournal.com

They did release the D&D cartoon in the UK. But unless you have a DVD plyer capable or Region 2 / PAL you are outta luck. I'm also homping tey release it here as well...should go check again now that I think about it...

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blackpaladin.livejournal.com

According to http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/, it's scheduled for U.S. release on December 5th.

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You're dissing the mighty BENDIS?!?!?

Call me a trend-following comics whore, but I friggin' love BMB. The "Avengers Disassembled" thing was utter crap and "New Avengers" still seems to be struggling, but Powers, Ultimate Spider-Man, and his friggin' immortal run on Daredevil have been some of my favorite comics of the last decade or so.

Oh, and my DVD wish list includes "The Producers," "Annihilator: Ten Years In Hell," and the next few volumes of MST3K. It would include "The Cars Unlocked" if I hadn't just bought it. :)

FOUR DISCS of "Superman?!?!?"

-=ShoEboX=-

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If we need to, we can go off on another thread, but, short form: Disassembled was indeed ludicrous, and New Avengers has been done best, I think, by JMS in Amazing Spider-Man. I haven't read Powers, I thought the Daredevil stuff was weak ("Let's just let Matt get crazier! Nyuk nyuk nyuk!"), and I was a fan of USM up to the completely gratuitous killing of Gwen Stacy. Dropped the book like a stone, and in fact that led me to dropping pretty much every other book I read within a couple of months. I keep up some with

scans_daily, and nothing there has me interested in starting up again with anything except the collected Fables.

Hunh. Not very "short form" at all, I guess. ;)

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Agreed that the killing of Gwen Stacy was gratuitous - though at least the next issue was pretty much dedicated to the characters dealing with this death, instead of just going on as if nothing had happened (a condition I call "John Byrne Disease.")

In other Marvel thingies, I've loved JMS's "Amazing." Peter David's "Friendly Neighorhood Spider-Man" has yet to really speak to me, though his work on "X-Factor" has been awesome. Pak's "Planet Hulk" storylines have been surprisingly interesting so far, and although so far I'm disappointed with Brubaker's "Daredevil" I'm sticking with it to see what happens.

And the "Civil War" thing has been done surprisingly well so far, IMHO. I really wonder how the hell Marvel's gonna pull themselves out of this one.

-=ShoEboX=-

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Yeah, I've gotta find out how the Iron Spider/Iron Man fight works out. I still think Peter can outthink and outfight IM -- Tony's just too used to brute force, and Parker's a street fighter with lots of experience at improvising.

Then again, there's this (http://community.livejournal.com/scans_daily/2594853.html) (spoilery).

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Pure guesswork here, but I have a sneaking suspicion Tony may have the ability to control Peter's new costume.

It would fit nicely with the theme of all of Spider-Man's non-red-and-blue costumes trying to kill him. :)

-=ShoEboX=-

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Ohhh, I've been worried about exactly that. I'm also wondering if, given the incentive, Whiz-Kid Parker might've come up with a way to control, or at least disable, Tony's. They've already shown that he's roughly as smart as either Tony or Reed, but comes at things from different angles than them, which I think is just too cool.

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thatcrazycajun.livejournal.com

So this scans_daily puts up scans of comic books and manga, right? Huh. Didn't know there actually was a whole LJ community built around copyright violation on a daily basis. Wonder how they're getting away with it and not being shut down by LJ management or DC/Marvel et al.?

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Dunno. There's also a spinoff community,

fullscans_daily, which goes even further.

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louisadkins.livejournal.com

Yum... Fables... I've been thinking about that since I sawit in SD, as well. I love the spin and the humor instilled.

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sdelmonte

PotC 2 is at the top of the list, and I think I am more likely than not to get the Donner cut. I share your opinion of Superman II. There's always ben a piece of me that blamed Lester for its shortcomings. Then again, the notion that Supes would give up his powers for his love was going to be there either way, and I never liked that idea much. It seems unlike Supes to so readily abdicate his responsibilities. (Then again, I do like that the Woman of Kleenex question was raised.)

And I feel I have to say something nice about Ultimate Spider-Man, which at least for its first 50 issues was a fun (if sometimes depressing comic). It's the only thing that BMB did that I like.

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My biggest problem with S2 was the fights with the trucker. The first one, I can kinda see, because Clark thinks he not only has to save the day, but he always can, and given that he'd just depowered and had no experience whatsoever in not being powered it was naive at best.

Going back to beat up the guy once he'd got his powers back, however, has me badly divided. On the one hand, it seems needlessly cruel and damned unfair, something Batman or Green Lantern would do before Supes; on the other hand, the guy did need some kind of comeuppance. I just don't think using Kryptonian strength on a human normal is appropriate.

And the superhypnosis thing is always a cop-out.

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The superhypnosis thing disturbed me even when I saw the movie as a kid. I asked my Mom what Superman was doing, and when she explained it to me, I had a hell of a time buying it. It opened up way too many possibilities of just hypnotizing Luthor into thinking he was a bar of soap or something. And I'm sure there's a way to segue into something about hypnotizing the world into forgetting Superman III and IV. :)

-=ShoEboX=-

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It opened up way too many possibilities of just hypnotizing Luthor into thinking he was a bar of soap or something.

Given that the hypnosis involved a long kiss, I'm thinking that's become an idea in too many Smallville fanfics...

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Yeah, we won't even go into that fetish. Although there was a Supes story, pre-Crisis, which tried to explain how no one recognized Clark Kent as Superman because the Kryptonian-material lenses in his glasses (the only thing that could withstand his heat vision) somehow amplified Supes' unconscious low-level superhypnosis, so when he was dressed as Clark people would see the image he was trying to project -- shorter, smaller, more frail.

I swear by whatever you would have me swear by, I'm not making that up.

(I actually have fond memories of that issue for another reason: I'm a long time Clark/Lana shipper, and Clark & Lois were on the outs at that point, and they were slowly building up Clark and Lana, who had a very good and mature conversation [for comics at the time] about how people's feelings change over time. Damn, now I've gotta see if I can find that issue online. I know I don't have it anymore....)

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I swear by whatever you would have me swear by, I'm not making that up.

Well, it would explain some of Christopher Reeve's incredible job at just that. I mean, really...the pair of glasses and stutter worked for him.

But yeah, that's a stretch. Then again, Clark's been recast quite a lot since the early days...some time around the aforementioned DCAU and Lois & Clark, I would guess, but at least part of it (the "masks" aspect, how Clark is the mask and Superman is the reality) has been Batman's shtick for years now.

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ldwheeler.livejournal.com

I own that issue somewhere (unless it got sold in one of my many purges). My favorite part was Lana coming across the revealed Clark/Superman and asking, essentially, what the ^%&%^*( he was doing hanging out in a storeroom in that ridiculous costume.

I could be wrong, but I seem to recall that the glasses/hypnosis concept was a reader suggestion that the creators incorporated. And that the underrated Martin Pasko wrote the story in question. (Pasko wrote some quite intelligent and mature dialogue for the characters, particulary Clark and Lana. Again, maybe intelligent/mature for the time, but I'll take it over the incessant half-ironic chatter/banter that BMB at his BMBest relies on.) (Though I like Powers and struggle through Avengers because it's my longtime Sentimental Favorite.)

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ldwheeler.livejournal.com

Which is kinda what Reed Richards did to the Skrulls, back in the day, except with cows rather than soap. Insane Lee-Kirby Goodness at its finest.

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rook543.livejournal.com

I want the new ULTIMAT BOND collection of James Bond movies...Remastered and all nice and spiffified!

A box set of the old Ghoul movie shows would also rock, but that ain't gonna happen....(sign)

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Never say never (http://www.theghoul.com/). ;)

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selenesue.livejournal.com

Well you just sent me careening to Amazon to update my wishlist with that Ultimate Boxed Set. Woot. The new JLU animateds are allegedly already on the way because I just could not wait. What a fangoob.

Other DVD's already there:
Looney Tunes Golden Collection, all the volumes after #1
Pinky and the Brain, 2 volumes
All of Babylon 5
All of Chef with Lenny Henry
Yellow Submarine

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palenoue.livejournal.com

The main thing that has cheered me up to no end is the new Jasper Fforde book, "The Fourth Bear." Downloaded the audio book to listen to on the walk to and from work. All of the usual weird silliness and well read (although I do wish they would get a woman to do the female voice). As an example of how enjoyable the book is, we've been having really serious rain here in Seattle lately, and the other night i had to through several 20-40 yard wide and 12 inch deep puddles on the way home, but I was laughing out loud at the numerous concepts.

As for DVDs, I'm glad you started this thread, didn't think the next Pinky and the Brain and Animaniacs would be out until after xmas, and a new Looney Tunes collection, too! Woo-hoo!

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Glad to be of service. :) Now, if only we can get that Freakazoid! collection....

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fantasyjax.livejournal.com

You have no idea how vindicated and reassured it makes me feel to see you flame Bendis.

New Avengers hatehatehate.

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