9/11™: A Special Comment by Teh Keith
Sep. 11th, 2008 08:20 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
filkertomFirst things first. A moment, to remember. As if we could ever forget.
Thanks.
Now.
Last week's GOP convention was pretty wild on several levels. Two of the wildest involved Keith Olbermann. Secondly, he and Chris Matthews have been demoted from anchoring future coverage, because tough manly-man über-soldier John McCain and hard-as-nails barracuda Sarah Palin said Keith and Chris were being waaaaah unfair.
Firstly, the Repubs had a "tribute" to 9/11. Which showed some of the carnage. Which we discussed here in this thread.
Which leads us to this.
Thanks.
Now.
Last week's GOP convention was pretty wild on several levels. Two of the wildest involved Keith Olbermann. Secondly, he and Chris Matthews have been demoted from anchoring future coverage, because tough manly-man über-soldier John McCain and hard-as-nails barracuda Sarah Palin said Keith and Chris were being waaaaah unfair.
Firstly, the Repubs had a "tribute" to 9/11. Which showed some of the carnage. Which we discussed here in this thread.
Which leads us to this.
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(no subject)
Date: 2008-09-11 12:59 pm (UTC)Fool us a third time, and I'm moving to Canada. I have a really low opinion of the intelligence of my fellow Americans. As a case in point, the race between Obama and McCain is still a close one. If the people here were smart, it would't be.
(no subject)
Date: 2008-09-12 07:56 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-09-12 02:50 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-09-11 01:00 pm (UTC)Oh.... wow.
I can't blame Keith O. Not in the least. Wow, that was brutally honest.
(no subject)
Date: 2008-09-11 01:02 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-09-11 01:04 pm (UTC)It was terrifying.
After all its object **was**… to **terrify.**"
ter·ror·ism
Pronunciation:
\ˈter-ər-ˌi-zəm\
Function:
noun
Date:
1795
: the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion
— ter·ror·ist \-ər-ist\ adjective or noun
— ter·ror·is·tic \ˌter-ər-ˈis-tik\ adjective
(no subject)
Date: 2008-09-11 01:05 pm (UTC)"A person who practices terrorism is a terrorist."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism
(no subject)
Date: 2008-09-11 01:20 pm (UTC)He's right...and it makes me sick to my stomach that he is right on this matter.
Oh, and I've already had my moment of silence and reflection on "Prove You're A Patriot Day," or, as my roommate put it, "You mean the day where everyone pretends to have patriotism flowing through their veins and then it goes back to business as usual the very next day?"
(no subject)
Date: 2008-09-11 01:32 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-09-11 01:41 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-09-11 02:55 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-09-12 05:44 pm (UTC)Re: Off Topic
Date: 2008-09-11 01:35 pm (UTC)Sorry, but I presume you have a point to make, that being We All Think Obama Is The Second Coming. (Coulda sworn he was the Anti-Christ. Or a Muslim. Or somethin'.) Yet another installment in your never-ending series You Democrat Haters Are Just Like Or Worse Than Republicans No Really. And I will tell you that I'm about one more day-long hair-splitting from banning you. I think that's a reasonably fair warning.
Re: Off Topic
Date: 2008-09-11 06:11 pm (UTC)> Please show me evidence of this.
"I guess a small-town mayor is sort of like a 'community organizer,' except that you have actual responsibilities." - Sarah Palin
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=94258995
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26535811/page/2/
I suppose that could be interpreted in a non-disparaging fashion. From where I sit, saying that somebody has no actual responsibilities brings images of somebody with a pretty title doing nothing worthwhile.
You Knew What You Were Getting Into
Date: 2008-09-11 06:36 pm (UTC)You've got one.
Y'know, I have tremendously close friends with whom I vehemently disagree politically. Sometimes we can talk about those things; sometimes we can't. We have, for the sake of our friendships, agreed to disagree... and, in many cases, to leave some subjects go. We cannot change each other's minds, and after awhile it simply is exhausting.
I have looked over other threads in which you have contributed (and they were contributions, in my eye, contrary to what you may think), and I find them... exhausting. No matter how many people doggedly point out a to you, you insist it's b or 3 or Oklahoma. You argue nuances in absolutes, and twist things out of context a little too often. It is indeed possible to refute the many points of argument, to continue the debate until the thread is worn down to a monofilament... but no one's opinion is going to be changed, no one's facts are going to be good enough. And I am, theoretically, trying to do other things with my day. I presume you are too.
At this point, as I have said I was going to ban you, I have to, at least for awhile. Two weeks, to catch my mental breath. At which point, you are once more welcome, for whatever it's worth, slate clean and let's start fresh.
I don't know that you will come back, though. Which will actually sadden me, though you may not believe it.
Another thing you may not believe is that I care about the truth. And I try to look at what is often referred to as The Big Picture. I despise how much effort and energy are going into some of the bullshit thrown around by the Republican party to defend Sarah Palin. I commented on another blog this morning that if the Repubs put a third of the energy into providing good government that they do into trying to score points, I and a lot of other liberal bloggers likely wouldn't have much to complain about. B
No matter what your stated political party, your chosen candidate... you seem to want to score points.
If you like, in two weeks we can discuss that some more. Or you can do it on your own LJ to your heart's content.
If I now have no intellectual integrity, if I am now petty, if I have been these things for a long time... well, it only confirms my own black opinion of myself, the one I try hard to disprove. So much for that.
Re: Off Topic
Date: 2008-09-11 06:37 pm (UTC)[Starts whistling the theme song to "Jeopardy"]
Re: Off Topic
Date: 2008-09-11 06:44 pm (UTC)Re: Off Topic
Date: 2008-09-11 06:51 pm (UTC)Alright, alright... Sorry.
But I'm only sorry to you!
Re: Off Topic
Date: 2008-09-11 06:46 pm (UTC)Ah. so you're for Bob Barr.
Pity. That means I don't get to use my new argument that Republicans can't criticize Obama on messianic grounds any more, since they started worshipping Sarah Palin.
Republicans are scrambling to portray Obama as unpatriotic and unChristian. Seems to me fair game to point out that Christ believed in helping the poor (like the Democrats do), not spitting at them and punishing them to teach them what a mistake they are making by being poor (like the Republicans do). If that means Obama has more in common with Christ than McCain does, well, Republicans who claim to be religious might want to think that over.
Re: Off Topic
Date: 2008-09-11 08:10 pm (UTC)I mean, he feeds the multitude on loaves and fishes, rather than showing them how to fish. He heals the lame. He offers comfort to prisoners -- talk about being soft on crime!
And, of course, there's his hostility to business. Just look at that hoopla in the temple, with the moneylenders.
(Heck, in Jesus Christ, Superstar, he seems to REALLY have it in for the postcard vendor, whose stand he knocks over twice!)
Re: Off Topic
Date: 2008-09-12 08:12 am (UTC)"you knee jerk so hard you risk re-tearing your quad."
WOW. Way to win us all over, fucker.
Re: Off Topic
Date: 2008-09-12 10:59 am (UTC)*sigh*
Way over the top there Baladain.
If there's anybody in here who goes against the general political grain of Tom and many of the people who hang out here, it's me. There have been times I've disagreed with him. There have been times I've just rolled my eyes, stopped and said "Nope, not even gonna get into this one." I've never had any doubts about his integrity. I'd like to think he believes the same of me.
As for not listening to his music or giving away his CD's, that's just silly, not to mention chilidish. Hell, if I refused to listen to the music, read the books, or watch the movies of everyone who held differing political opinions than mine I'd have no entertainment at all. There are one or two people I absolutely refuse to give money to, but it's a very short list and the relatively mild disagreements I've had with Tom don't even put him on the same planet with those people.
I know you can't respond to this right now. If you really feel the need to bitch at me feel free to email me at bporter@runbox.com.
Re: Off Topic
Date: 2008-09-12 02:53 pm (UTC)Could I have them?
Seriously though, we can all agree to disagree without getting nasty about it.
Re: Off Topic
Date: 2008-09-11 04:23 pm (UTC)And I quote...
"It's what God would want."
Unquote.
Re: Off Topic
Date: 2008-09-11 06:18 pm (UTC)Who am I?
Are you dense? Are you retarded or something?
I'm the goddamned Uncle Lumpy, bitch!
And you're yet another "South Park Independent" who claims to loathe and despise both of the Big Party candidates out of some delusion that it makes you "hep" while your actual demonstrations and vocalizations are RIDICULOUSLY one-sided and disproportionally focused against one candidate and not the other.
This leads me to suspect either one of two things;
1. You're a goddamned liar.
2. You only do that for the sake of causing grief and aggravation in Tom's LJ, which further causes me to suspect that you are, in fact, so utterly impotent and powerless in your own personal life that shit like this is the only way you're able to convince yourself that your own worthiness and viability as a human being.
Either way, you're fucked boy!
And if you were expecting my response to be something along the lines of "You're right, I'm sorry, that was unfair of me"... I AIN'T THAT KIND OF LIBERAL!
Re: Off Topic
Date: 2008-09-12 08:16 am (UTC)He reads your shit, motherfucker. What, did you borrow the brain of a cartoon chicken with only right wings? (Ha ha ha, I kill me)
If you don't mean what you say, then make it clearer it's a joke. And even then, don't ruin the joke by getting all mad like that, cause it fucks with the rhythm.
(no subject)
Date: 2008-09-11 03:03 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-09-11 03:34 pm (UTC)Margaret Atwood's "The Handmaid's Tale" anyone? I'd really prefer to keep the Vatican as the world's only Christian theocracy. And the way things are going, I think the founding fathers of the United States of America, who believed in the separation of church and state, are collectively rolling over in their graves and thinking maybe King George III wasn't so bad after all.
(no subject)
Date: 2008-09-11 07:27 pm (UTC)http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1839371,00.html
(that's not where I read it, just the quickest ref material)
(no subject)
Date: 2008-09-12 05:52 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-09-11 03:43 pm (UTC)http://www.somethingpositive.net/sp10102006.shtml
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Date: 2008-09-11 04:01 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2008-09-11 05:39 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-09-11 11:38 pm (UTC)A Request
Date: 2008-09-12 01:01 pm (UTC)