Animation Meme

[filkertom]

Nicked from ladysmith.

- [ ] what you haven't seen or haven't finished
- [X] or Bold what you loved [I also have XX for double-love -- Tom]
- [O] or Strike for what you disliked
- [-] what you thought was just okay or neutral
(modified for ease of formatting) [and by me for clarity -- Tom]

Classic Disney
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[-] 101 Dalmatians (1961)
[XX] Alice in Wonderland (1951)
[-] Bambi (1942)
[X] Cinderella (1950)
[-] Dumbo (1941)
[XX] Fantasia (1940)
[X] Lady and the Tramp (1955)
[XX] Mary Poppins (1964)
[XX] Peter Pan (1953)
[X] Pinocchio (1940)
[XX] Sleeping Beauty (1959)
[XX] Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937)
[ ] Song of the South (1946)


Disney's Dark Age
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[X] The Aristocats (1970)
[O] The Black Cauldron (1985)
[-] The Fox and the Hound (1981)
[-] The Great Mouse Detective (1986)
[XX] The Jungle Book (1967)*
[XX] The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh (1977)*
[O] Oliver and Company (1986)
[ ]Pete's Dragon (1977)
[-] Rescuers, The (1977)
[-] Robin Hood (1973)
[X] The Sword In The Stone (1963)*

*I really don't think of these as part of any "dark age", given that Walt was alive and well when working on them -- except for the last part of Pooh

The Disney Renaissance
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[XX] Aladdin (1992)
[XX] Beauty and the Beast (1991)
[-] A Goofy Movie (1995)
[XX] Hercules (1997)
[XX] Hunchback of Notre Dame, The (1996)
[X] The Lion King (1994)
[XX] The Little Mermaid (1989)
[X] Mulan (1998)
[-] Pocahontas (1995)
[-] The Rescuers Down Under (1990)
[XX] Tarzan(1999)

Disney's Modern Age
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[X] Atlantis: The Lost Empire (2001)
[X] Bolt (2008)
[ ] Brother Bear (2003)
[X] Chicken Little (2005)
[-] Dinosaur (2000)
[XX] Emperor's New Groove, The (2000)
[XX] Fantasia 2000 (2000)
[ ] Home on the Range (2004)
[XX] Lilo & Stitch (2002)
[X] Meet the Robinsons (2007)
[X] Treasure Planet (2002)

Pixar
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[X] A Bug's Life (1998)
[XX] Cars (2006)
[XX] Finding Nemo (2003)
[XX] The Incredibles (2004)
[XX] Monsters Inc. (2001)
[XX] Ratatouille (2007)
[XX] Toy Story (1995)
[XX] Toy Story 2 (1999)
[XX] Wall-E (2008)

Don Bluth
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[ ] All Dogs Go to Heaven (1989)
[ ] An American Tail (1986)
[-] An American Tail: Fieval Goes West
[XX] Anastasia (1997)
[ ] The Land Before Time (1988)
[ ] The Pebble and the Penguin (1995)
[O] Rock-a-Doodle (1991)
[XX] The Secret of NIMH (1982)
[ ] Thumbelina (1994)
[ ] Titan AE (2000)
[ ] A Troll in Central Park (1994)

Claymation
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[X] The Adventures of Mark Twain (1986)
[X] Chicken Run (2000)
[X] Corpse Bride (2005)
[-] James and the Giant Peach (1996)
[XX] Nightmare Before Christmas, The (1993)
[XX] Wallace & Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit (2005)
[XX] Coraline (2009)

CGI Glut
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[X] Antz (1998)
[X] Happy Feet (2006)
[XX] Kung Fu Panda (2008)
[ ] Madagascar (2005)
[X] Monster House (2006)
[XX] Over the Hedge (2006)
[O] Polar Express, The (2004)
[X] Shrek (2001)
[X] Shrek 2 (2004)
[-] Shrek The Third

Imports
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[X] Arabian Knight (aka The Thief and the Cobbler) (1995)
[XX] The Last Unicorn (1982)
[ ] Light Years
[ ] Triplets of Belleville, The (2003)
[ ] Persepolis (2007)
[ ] Waltz With Bashir (2008)
[XX] Watership Down (1978)
[XX] When the Wind Blows (1988)
[XX] Yellow Submarine (1968)

Studio Ghibli/Miyazaki
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[ ] Grave of the Fireflies
[ ] Howl's Moving Castle (2004)
[ ] Kiki's Delivery Service (1989)
[ ] Laputa: Castle in the Sky (1986)
[ ] Lupin III: The Castle of Cagliostro (1979)
[ ] My Neighbors The Yamadas
[ ] My Neighbor Totoro (1993)
[ ] Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind (1984)
[ ] Only Yesterday
[ ] Pom Poko (Tanuki War)
[ ] Porco Rosso (1992)
[X] Princess Mononoke (1999)
[XX] Spirited Away (2002)
[ ] Whisper of the Heart
[ ] The Cat Returns (2002)

Satoshi Kon
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[ ] Millennium Actress (2001)
[ ] Paprika (2006)
[-] Perfect Blue (1999)
[ ] Tokyo Godfathers (2003)
[ ] Memories - "Magnetic Rose" (1995)

Shinkai Makoto
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[ ] She and Her Cat (1999)
[ ] Voices of a Distant Star (2001)
[ ] The Place Promised in Our Early Days (2004)
[ ] 5 Centimeters per Second (2007)

Other Anime Films
[X] Akira (1989)
[ ] Appleseed
[ ] Appleseed: Ex Machina
[ ] Arcadia of My Youth (U.S. Title - Vengeance of the Space Pirate)
[ ] Cowboy Bebop: The Movie (2003)
[ ] The Dagger of Kamui (U.S. Title - Revenge of the Ninja Warrior)
[ ] Dirty Pair: Project Eden
[ ] End of Evangelion
[ ] Fist of the North Star
[ ] Galaxy Express 999
[-] Ghost in the Shell (1996)
[ ] The Girl Who Leapt Through Time
[ ] Lensmen
[ ] Macross: Do You Remember Love (U.S. Title - Clash of the Bionoids)
[ ] Metropolis (2001)
[ ] Neo-Tokyo
[ ] Ninja Scroll
[ ] Patlabor the Movie
[ ] The Professional: Golgo 13
[X] Project A-ko
[ ] Robot Carnival
[ ] Robotech: The Shadow Chronicle
[ ] Silent Mobius
[ ] Space Adventure Cobra
[ ] Steamboy (2004)
[ ] Sword of the Stranger
[ ] Unico and the Island of Magic
[ ] Urotsukidoji: The Movie
[-] Vampire Hunter D
[ ] Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust
[ ] Wings of Honneamise: Royal Space Force

Cartoons For Grown-Ups
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[OO] American Pop
[X] The Animatrix (2003)
[ ] Beavus and Butthead Do America (1996)
[ ] Cool World
[-] Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within (2001)
[X] Final Fantasy: Advent Children
[ ] Fire & Ice
[-] Fritz the Cat (1972)
[X] Heavy Metal (1981)
[ ] Heavy Metal 2000 (2000)
[ ] Hey Good Looking
[ ] Lady Death
[ ] A Scanner Darkly (2006)
[XX] South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut (1999)
[ ] Street Fight (AKA - Coonskin)
[ ] Waking Life (2001)

Other Animated Movies I Can't Categorize
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[X] Animal Farm
[ ] Animalympics
[ ] Aqua Teen Hunger Force Colon The Movie
[XX] Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker
[X] The Brave Little Toaster (1988)
[ ] Bravestarr: The Movie
[ ] Care Bears: The Movie
[XX] Charlotte's Web (1973)
[-] Fern Gully
[X] G.I. Joe: The Movie
[ ] Gobots: Battle of the Rock Lords
[ ] He-Man & She-Ra: The Secret of the Sword
[XX] The Hobbit
[XX] The Iron Giant (1999)
[XX] Justice League: The New Frontier
[X] Lord of the Rings
[ ] Little Nemo: Adventures in Slumberland (1992)
[ ] My Little Pony: The Movie
[X] Pink Floyd's The Wall (1982)
[X] The Prince of Egypt (1998)
[ ] Powerpuff Girls: The Movie
[ ] Quest For Camelot (1999)
[ ] Ringing Bell
[ ] Road to El Dorado, The (2000)
[XX] Rock & Rule
[X] Space Jam
[ ] Starchaser: The Legend of Orin
[X] Superman: Doomsday
[ ] The Swan Princess
[ ] Transformers: The Movie (1986)
[XX] Wizards
[XX] Who Framed Roger Rabbit (1988)
[X] Wonder Woman
[ ] Balto
[ ] Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron

Obviously, I need to see a lot more anime.

There are also a lot of movies missing here, such as Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas, Beowulf, Looney Tunes: Back In Action, The Plague Dogs, the Rankin-Bass Return of the King, Happily N'Ever After, and the real biggie, Allegro Non Troppo. Not to mention things like Jan Švankmajer's Alice and Faust, the Marvel direct-to-DVD moves such as Iron Man and Dr. Strange, at least two Smurf movies, and, well, a buttload more. What else do you think should be on the list?

ETA: Several more that should be on the list: The Ice Age films, Afro Samurai, Batman: Gotham Nights (if we're doing the Animatrix, we do that one), Disney's Three Musketeers and Christmas Carol, and, oh yeah, a little flick that came out last summer: Star Wars: The Clone Wars. And, bluntly, if they're counting things like the My Little Pony films, there are a slew of things like the Barbie direct-to-disk vids.

ETA2: If we have Mark Twain, why not I Go Pogo and The Little Prince?

This is actually more fun for realizing how many cool films have been left out.

Comments

[sdelmonte]

Batman: Mask of the Phantasm, which I love. The Hanna Barbera movies of the 60s (Man Called Flintstone, Hey There, It's Yogi Bear and that bizarre Alice in Wonderland). The truckload of Disney sequels (though most are apparently awful - the third Aladdin was passable since Robin Williams came back). The DuckTales film. The Futurama DVD films.

And The Simpsons Movie. How is that one not on this list?

[filkertom.livejournal.com]

Not only B:MotP, but Sub-Zero.

[unclelumpy.livejournal.com]

So what's a nice kid like you doing in a place like this?

[bryanp.livejournal.com]

As mentioned above, the Batman animated movies should be included.

The list of anime films, with the exception of the Miyazaki category, is a bit odd to me. I can see at least half a dozen titles that I would only show to someone if I wanted to make them hate anime. The list reminds me that I need to re-watch Kiki's Delivery Service. It's been too long since I watched that one, and it always makes me smile.

Have you never seen Song of the South for lack of interest, or because of its current unavailability in the US?

[filkertom.livejournal.com]

The latter. I seem to recall seeing parts of it when I was just a little kid, on The Wonderful World of Disney (I think I was little enough that it was Walt Disney's Wonderful World of Color). And I've been champing at the bit for the U.S. DVD release, which supposedly is finally happening this year, but I ain't countin' on it until it's in my hands.

[redaxe.livejournal.com]

I'm a bit surprised at some of your not-seens. Was Song of the South a conscious decision, or just lack of opportunity?

Here's a definite rec on the first American Tail and a see-but-not-must on the second. Also Howl's Moving Castle, provided you won't gnash your teeth when it is very not the book.

Missing: The Wind in the Willows (1983), the Wallace and Gromits other than ...Were-Rabbit (certainly the mid-length ones like The Wrong Trousers and A Matter of Loaf and Death), Fleischer's Gulliver's Travels, and six Asterix flicks. I've never seen any of the animated full-length Tintin movies, but I expect they should be listed, too.

[filkertom.livejournal.com]

I've got one or two of the Asterix films on VHS, but never got around to watching them. And I think the Wallace & Gromit ones wouldn't count because they're not full-length. And now I've gotta check.... yeah, Asterix and the Vikings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asterix_and_the_Vikings) was released in 2006, and Red Nails (http://www.conanrednails.com/) is supposedly being released this year.

[saganth.livejournal.com]

Don't forget "Batman: Mystery of the Batwoman."

Also, a movie that entertained and scared a lot of little kids when it was shown ad nauseum on HBO in the late 70s or early 80s, "Dot and the Kangaroo." That was the one that was a mix of classic animation and real photography, about a little girl lost in the Australian bush and the animals who help her get home. If you want to see or need a reminder about why it was scary, watch this on YouTube with the mindset of a 5-10 year old:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtrYO-Mog60

I am glad "Rock and Rule" was in there, thought I was gonna have to name it too!

[unclelumpy.livejournal.com]

Hoppity-hoppity!
Bumpity-bump!

[saganth.livejournal.com]

Oh and I forgot the Chuck Jones fest of "The Bugs Bunny Road Runner Movie" and the lesser compilation Looney Tunes films, including "Looney Tunes, Back in Action".

[filkertom.livejournal.com]

I mentioned the latter up above, but it wasn't a compilation -- it was a full-length movie (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0318155/) with Brendan Fraser, Steve Martin, and many more (including Bill Goldberg).

[reynardine.livejournal.com]

Certainly check out Kiki's Delivery Service. That movie is absolutely darling and they did a wonderful job on the dub.

[bryanp.livejournal.com]

Indeed. It's one of my favorite Miyazaki films, and while I'm usually a "subtitles and Japanese audio please" purist, the dubs of the Miyazaki films have been extremely well done across the board.

[redneckgaijin.livejournal.com]

Good on you for having the excellent taste to know of Allegro non Troppo.

[filkertom.livejournal.com]

That is a truly wonderful flick, innit? A lot of people think it's even better than Fantasia. I happen not to agree, but that's only because I think it's about on the same level. Fantasia wins by a hair, or more specifically by a Night On Bald Mountain. ;)

[misterseth.livejournal.com]

A few suggestions...
Fantastic Planet- An early 70s French/ Czech film by the same people who did Light Years (Rene Laloux, Topor, Wul) VERY graphic (Not as graphic as Urotsukidoji, but graphic for its time)
Urusei Yatsura, Beautiful Dreamer-(based on the anime series of the same name)
Jack and the Witch-(an early anime, often shown on the SFM holiday network)The entire movie (in parts) can be found on YouTube.

[filkertom.livejournal.com]

Thanks for remembering Fantastic Planet -- it is indeed gorgeous. Haven't seen the others. Man, we've all got a lot of catching up to do....

[bayushisan.livejournal.com]

The Twelve Tasks of Asterix was a great one from back in the day.

Just as an aside I'm actually very disappointed that they included Disney's Black Cauldron in the list. It was a terrible movie and the depths of my loathing for it cannot be described in mere words.

[filkertom.livejournal.com]

Yeah, but it does exist. Heck, it's still on DVD. I'm considering getting it for the Bad Movie Box.

[markbernstein.livejournal.com]

I have a few Miyazaki films on DVD that I could bring over for a viewing party some time.

I think your comment on the "Dark Age" is off. Walt died in 1966. A quick Google turned up this page, which claims that Jungle Book was the last film he worked on.

[filkertom.livejournal.com]

Yes, but that last does not include the 1977 theatrical release of The Many Adventures of Winnie-The-Pooh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Many_Adventures_of_Winnie_the_Pooh), a compilation of Winnie the Pooh and the Honey Tree (1966), Winnie the Pooh and the Blustery Day (1968) and Winnie the Pooh and Tigger Too! (1974). Walt produced the first and was involved in the second when he passed away.

[peachtales.livejournal.com]

Love Fantasia, and the new version too, also Lilo and Stitch was a lot of fun for me. I liked Mulan a lot, and The Rescuers was one of my favorites as a kid.
I second that more of the Wallace and Gromit stuff is definitely worthy of being included.
Love Asterix and Lucky Luke, although the movies never seem anywhere near as cool as the books :D
When it comes to Miyazaki, if I had to name one single favorite, it would likely be Kiki's Delivery Service, followed by Castle in the Sky, Spirited Away and The Cat Returns if more were allowed. I did also like Porco Rosso, Princess Mononoke and Howl's Moving Castle.

[zellion.livejournal.com]

Care Bears the movie is on there but not Care Bears in Wonderland? Shame! Wonderland trumps the original movie by a mile. (Of course I don't seem to be able to find may other people who've seen it, so getting a DVD release some day is probably out of the question... sigh.)

[hearth-spirit.livejournal.com]

Tom, you should really see My Neighbor Totoro, if nothing else on the anime list. It's definite children's fare, but has a lot for adults to enjoy.

[admnaismith.livejournal.com]

The Phantom Tollbooth

[filkertom.livejournal.com]

Oooooh, very nice pick-up. And one which reminds me of another film from our childhoods, Pinocchio in Outer Space. (Unfortunately, I also just remembered Alakazam the Great! I can has brain bleach, pls?)

Also: Mad Monster Party.

[selenesue.livejournal.com]

My thoughts on this list:

You would think that nobody besides Disney ever did feature length animation before 1960. "Snow White" beat the Fleischers' "Gulliver's Travels" as the first ever feature length animated film by a hair [and probably by more rotoscoping, snort!]

Even the Disney list is clearly dated. "WALL-E" but not "Bolt"?

Why so many Warner Bros. direct-to-video features but not Disney?

"Can't Categorize" - lazy excuse. "TV Tie In" "Fantasy" and "DC Comics" would cover most of them.

"Claymation" is a trademark of the Will Vinton Studios. It is probably some kind of copyright infringement or at least a faux pas to apply the term as a generic.

[unclelumpy.livejournal.com]

The Fleischer films sucked.

I'm sorry, but Fleischer used to be worth a damn until they started aping Disney.

[redaxe.livejournal.com]

Oh, good grief! Where's Ray Harryhausen? Should we include Seventh Voyage of Sinbad and Jason and the Argonauts on this list, or do they sit as SFX in live-action films? Do any of his films make the cut for "animated"?

ETA: The full-length version of The Wizard of Speed and Time! (See how doing taxes stimulates the brain? :-)

[filkertom.livejournal.com]

See, these all get into a whole 'nother area, touched on in the list with Mary Poppins and Pete's Dragon: the live-action films with animation in them.

Basically, the list is nowhere near comprehensive or clear enough.

[palenoue.livejournal.com]

Looking over the list, I count only six movies I haven't seen, and I have about 3/4 of the list boxed up in the other room. And here I was worrying about losing my fan cred.

I second the motion to include the Futurama movies, especially the first (Mmmmm... Executive Powder®)

[nightmarewriter.livejournal.com]

This: Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind (1984)

You should see this. It, along with Akira, sparked my love of Anime. The movie was based on the first 16 chapters of the Manga, that numbered 7 volumes written from 1982 and concluding in 1994.

Of course, the Manga is more nuanced than the movie, considering that it includes more politics and covers more plot.

We have the second version of the movie, which was given new English voice acting, over the same animation. How's this for a cast: Patrick Stewart, Uma Thurma, Edward James Olmos, Mark Hamill among other stars.

Wikipedia has articles about the movie and the manga and Youtube has several clips. This one's good: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ms-ilMug8A
It shows our favorite character Teto, her little pet fox-squirrel.

[misterseth.livejournal.com]

Here's a few more:
Filmation's Flash Gordon- Not the one with the Queen soundtrack, but just as good.
The Life and Adventures of Santa Claus-Based on a story By L. Frank Baum, author of the Wizard of Oz. There are two diffrent versions, one by Rankin Bass and another by Glenn Hill.
Journey Back To Oz-Not as good as the MGM classic, and a far cry from the sequel it was based on, but worth a look. (Interesting facts, Liza Minelli, who played Dorothy in this film, is the daughter of Judy Garland, the Dorothy in the original film)

[unclelumpy.livejournal.com]

NO Gay Purr-ee?!

How could they forget Gay Purr-ee?!

[filkertom.livejournal.com]

How could I forget Gay Purr-ee!? And that leads to The Incredible Mr. Limpet.

And another one I kept forgetting: The Snow Queen -- you know, the Russian one that Art Linkletter hosts and Paul Frees does the voice of the little gnome at the beginning....

[jcw-da-dmg.livejournal.com]

Even though I know it will never make anybody's list of the top 100 animated films, I kinda liked The Tale of Despereaux. I particularly enjoyed the fact that it took place in a country which had a national holiday celebrating soup.

[darrenzieger.livejournal.com]

Wow. That's a lot of hate for American Pop, one of my favorite badly flawed movies that nobody else likes, the shallow bastards. You probably hated Toys, too, when all it takes to enjoy it is imagining someone other than Robin Williams in the lead. ;)

Similarly, everyone else seems to love Shrek 2, and I thought it was an interminable, crass, mind-numbing piece of (magnificently designed and executed) shit.

Ah, well. Just another case where everyone is wrong but me. It's a heavy burden, but I put up with it because I love you guys.