The Washington Post has a detailed graphic analysis of the CBS memos. Sure look fake, or at least recreated badly.
Their content is still uncontested, i.e., Bush disobeyed a direct order and went AWOL.
Update: Eeyup, the memos are bogus.
Their content is still uncontested. Check out the link below in
shsilver's comment.
Their content is still uncontested, i.e., Bush disobeyed a direct order and went AWOL.
Update: Eeyup, the memos are bogus.
Their content is still uncontested. Check out the link below in
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Date: 2004-09-20 08:09 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-09-20 08:13 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-09-20 12:35 pm (UTC)On May 26, 1972, Lt. Col. Reese Bricken, commander of the 9921st Air Reserve Squadron at Maxwell Air Force Base in Alabama, informed Bush that a transfer to his nonflying unit would be unsuitable for a fully trained pilot such as he was, and that Bush would not be able to fulfill any of his remaining two years of flight obligation.
Here's the document that they link to. I don't understand how the text of the memo, concluding with "we're glad to have you", supports the contention in the paragraph. In fact, other analysis I've seen indicates that Bricken said fine and HQ bounced it at a later date, leaving Bush scrambling for an alternative billet and having to make up service time.
For a superb article, they seem to be awfully sloppy.
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Date: 2004-09-21 06:53 am (UTC)Quoting from the memo, Lt. Col. Bricken's comments in their entirety:Which translates to me as, "Well, I can't think of a reason to technically deny it. It's a training job, and you're already trained, and we have no idea how long we'll actually be here, but... sure, what the heck!" Which actually strikes me as pretty irresponsible on his part as well.
Am I very wrong, Bill?
What this is, young padawan, is another example of someone in the chain of command coddling a spoiled rich kid. Dubya could say, "Well, see, I was assigned"... to a frickin' training position. Pay Grade None? He had money.
He was trying to game the system. And the system, sensitive to power, went along with it.
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Date: 2004-09-21 07:22 am (UTC)Read the paragraph in the Salon article that I quoted. Read the document that they link to. The two don't agree.
Now, it is true that Bush was later told by superiors in the National Guard that the 9921st wouldn't do. But there's no evidence from what's presented that Bricken did so. So Salon would appear to be pulling facts out of an orifice where the sun don't shine. Given that, I don't much feel like fact-checking the rest of the "superb" article; I start to suspect that it's yet another pile of partisan BS.
Here's the Paragraph to go with the Document
Date: 2004-09-21 07:33 am (UTC)Now, yeah, Bricken told him this in a jovial, old-boys-club manner, saying sure, he was welcome -- but also that he couldn't use this assignment to meet his actual flying requirements. It would be logged as training time, not flying time.
I don't see the discrepancy.
Re: Here's the Paragraph to go with the Document
Date: 2004-09-21 08:55 am (UTC)I don't need it quoted to me again when I quoted it to you in the first place.
Re: Here's the Paragraph to go with the Document
Date: 2004-09-21 09:11 am (UTC)Re: Here's the Paragraph to go with the Document
Date: 2004-09-21 09:13 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-09-20 08:17 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-09-20 08:45 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-09-20 08:56 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-09-20 11:21 am (UTC)At this point, unless he's been threatened, it seems to me that he ought to reveal who that was. It's kind of important.
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Date: 2004-09-20 09:49 am (UTC)Scenario 1:
"Where the hell did this come from?"
"Beats me. What do you want to do about it?"
"Return it without comment, stand back, and pass the popcorn."
Scenario 2:
"OK, you win. Rather fell for it."
[George Bush hands Karl Rove a $1 bill]
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Date: 2004-09-20 03:19 pm (UTC)But the real killer is the "fi" kerning... no typewriter would do that.
I find it somewhere between annoying and amusing that while making poiints about what typewriters could and couldn't do they made misatakes as to what was an wasn't relevant.
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Date: 2004-09-21 12:33 am (UTC)If we stick to this, keep calling W. a deserter, it might sink his campaign.