Still Flyin' -- It Ain't Much... It's Enough

[filkertom]

Lovely weekend at ConClave. Many, many, many thanks to Tom, Liz, and ever-damn-body. You are my tribe, and I love you all.

Busy, busy night and tomorrow. Must finish two commission projects. Later in week, must finish last two songs from The Last Hero On Earth.

But.

I just now finished watching the pilot episode of Firefly.

I don't know yet if it's as good as Babylon 5 or American Gothic.

But.














Damn.

So that's what you all have been talking about.

Damn.

Comments

[jedilora.livejournal.com]

Hell yeah.

See the movie ASAP. We need every dollar we can get.

[darthparadox.livejournal.com]

Damn straight.

And it gets better.

[atalantapendrag.livejournal.com]

Babylon 5 is excellent.
American Gothic, I will be able to give an opinion on once it's out on DVD.


Firefly is also excellent.


Room in the `verse for lots of shiny.

And SERENITY? Waaaaaaaaay shiny.

[ddrussianinja.livejournal.com]

Once you get to episode 7, you won't wanna stop.

[almeda.livejournal.com]

My personal favorite is Out of Gas (which is one of the most amazing pieces of TV cinematography I've ever seen), but I don't remember which # ep that is. I actually show it stand-alone to people who aren't sure they want to watch, and are only willing to commit to a single hour of tryout.

[braider.livejournal.com]

I'm still pissed off about Serenity.

Watch the entire series, then watch the movie. You'll see why.

Yeah, it's a good movie. I still want to slap Joss Whedon upside the head.

[ddrussianinja.livejournal.com]

I was pissed too, but got over it because it was such a good movie.

[smallship1.livejournal.com]

I think it is.

[vulpine137.livejournal.com]

It's a pretty good series IMHO, and the pilot isn't one of the best episodes. You should be heartily entertained.

[kender42.livejournal.com]

Welcome to the 'verse, Tom. :) I agree, the pilot was not the greatest episode, but it STILL shoulda been shown first, not last. Fox, you stupid fong luh weenies.

[filkertom.livejournal.com]

See, that's kinda my point. If the pilot isn't the greatest episode.... whew. 'Cause I thought it was nineteen kindsa superb.

[lapislaz.livejournal.com]

Oh, my, what joys and sadnesses await you, my son. You are gonna be so jazzed.

[sarekofvulcan.livejournal.com]

I have to say it isn't as good as B5, but that's only because it never got the chance to be. However, it was running top-of-the-line episodes faster than B5, was, so who knows what would have happened?

[technocracygirl.livejournal.com]

If Firefly had gotten five years and four movies...well...

Don't get me wrong; I adored B5. (Okay, maybe not season five. But 1-4? Genius.) But Firefly. Holy cow. Omigod, so much with the shiny. Plus, B5 very rarely looked at the underbelly of the 'verse. ("By Any Means Necessary," and one of the best eps of five, the one from the POV of the maintenance guys notwithstanding.) Firefly is all about being on the raggedy edge of the 'verse, or at least the series is. I have my doubts about the movie, but I think if Joss had had a season to tell it, it would have been much more about the raggedy edge, and much less about the high tech. But that's edging into TMI/spoilers stuff, so I'll stop there. Suffice to say, I think that the Firefly people are very everyman, and the main B5 people are shading towards the heroic. (Though, as I write this, I think I might be wrong.)

Hrm. Maybe I need to rewatch my B5s

[scifantasy.livejournal.com]

I'm with sarekofvulcan. I give B5 the edge, but a lot (not all, necessarily, but a lot) of that edge is that to a first approximation, B5 told the story it wanted to tell.

[galicola.livejournal.com]

Indeed.
I envy you, going to watch it for the first time.

IMO it's better than B5, but I only got to about middle first season of B5. Then again, Firefly caught me from episode one....

I can't wait to see the movie myself.

[filkertom.livejournal.com]

Just So You Know: Season One of B5 seems very uneven -- only about 60% of the episodes seem to be actually, y'know, good. Thing is, there are very good sceens in pretty much every episode, and more importantly a lot of set-up scenes, of plot elements that don't get resolved until Season Four. Without question, there is some dreck; but, once you get down to, say, the last four or five episdes of S1, and especially once S2 gets rolling, wow. A little tough to start, but really really worth it.

Crusade is, shall we say, a different matter.

[eibii.livejournal.com]

Oh, boy. You are in for a treat. Congratulations, and I truly hope you enjoy what's to come.

Trying to compare it to B5, and I love B5 too, well... it's so strange to try. Apples to oranges. Chocolate and prime rib. Really good thing, and... other really good thing. My similes are borked, but it's a tasty piece to add indeed, either way. ("Out of Gas" still makes me cry... oh, so good.)

[mhookermyers.livejournal.com]

The trouble is when someone mentions an episode, I think, "Oh, yeah, I really liked that one, too." But I got to say that Jaynestown is my favorite. I think you are really going to love this one. You have got to put out a post after you see it and let us all know what you think.

Pilot episode...

[lizard-sf.livejournal.com]

It gets better. Lots better. A few of the early eps (Train Job, Safe) are "Eh..."...but once you hit "Our Mrs Reynolds", it just keeps on getting better. (Modulus "Heart of Gold")

I'm going to OVFF. I'm expecting that if you keep watching this show, you'll have some songs there....

(Now, we need to somehow get Leslie Fish a copy of the DVDs...)

[mouser.livejournal.com]

Wait.

It gets better.

[fiawol.livejournal.com]

"Good" is subjective, but it's FUN! You can watch Serenity without having seen Firefly, but it has more "punch" when you have more of a backstory to the characters that watching 10+ hours of TV episodes gives you.

[thingunderthest.livejournal.com]

Welcome to the 'verse indeed.

i really like out of gas, and objects in space, River shines in that one. and Our Mrs. Reynolds, and.. well, I don't think there is a bad episode in the lot. On some you get a good picture of life on a core world, how society works, others have great moments of character development, or show some aspect that we haven't seen. It's all shiny.

I've only met 1 person that didn't like Serenity, and they just ain't right.

[batyatoon]

... okay, now I'm sitting here gleeing out loud.

Because I am speculating about the likelihood of you writing Firefly songs.

Of which there aren't anything like enough.

Glee, I say. GLEE.

[arensb.livejournal.com]

I'm going to be the dissenting voice and say that I didn't like Firefly (haven't seen Serenity; if a bunch of friends go to see it, I'll tag along, but have no plans to go see it).

My main problem isn't with the plots, the characters, or the dialog. Rather, it's mainly the fact that what with the spaceships, energy weapons, and computers, I thought it was going to be a SF series, but it turned out to be a western.

If Whedon wanted to make a western, that's fine, but then why throw in all the skiffy props? Why not just use stagecoaches in the western US states? Or if he wanted to make a western-SF crossover, then he should've included some SF in the mix.

Okay, there was some SF. The government slicing up the girl's brain, for instance, but IIRC that only showed up at the end, in an episode that never aired. And the "out of gas" episode doesn't directly translate to horses or mules. But those are the exception rather than the rule. Mostly, it was just a straight western with very few changes, and no SF to speak of.

[bardicwench.livejournal.com]

Told you. Told you. Told you.


*grin* Sorry... just had to. *HUGS*

Welcome to the Browncoats, hon. At least your tribe is with you.

[shinymarigold.livejournal.com]

Damn.
So that's what you all have been talking about.

Yeah, exactly. Sorry to say I missed the Big Damn Movie--what with all the working and moving and whatever, going to the movies fell somewhere between picking lint off my sweater and cataloging my twist-tie collection. But still...yeah. The Joss he does good work.