Trolls Make My Teeth Ache

[filkertom]

I seem to have a troll. Loads of fun, and nearly completely wrong on everything except the fact that I used to have a really messy car, which was kinda common knowledge so it's not exactly the big reveal in Act Three of CSI: Fandom.

Word to the troll, whose IP is noted and logged: Don't bother. I am not a tech whiz, and don't pretend to be one. I know lots of real tech whizzes, and they are the people I go to when I have serious problems. But I'm not clueless either.

If you've got a genuine problem with me about something, the e-mail is filkertom at yahoo dot com. I'll listen. If I just offend you on general principles, though, sorry, but I don't feel like explaining private details of my life just to deflect an amateur-night Don Rickles. If you just want to insult me from behind a fake name, both of us have better things to do.

So, is anybody else holding some kinda grudge I should know about? Have I ticked you off? Something unresolved? I'm very serious here. Apart from the Bush Administration and their enablers, I don't need or want enemies. Certainly not in fandom, not among people whom I consider friends. If you'd rather take it to e-mail, that's good too.

Comments

[bardicwench.livejournal.com]

No trolling or grudges here. *hugs*

[unclelumpy.livejournal.com]

How DARE you not accept Ron Popeil as your Personal Lord and Savior?!!

[popefelix.livejournal.com]

Because Ron Popeil is a charlatan of the first water. Ron Jeremy is our true Lord and Saviour!

[vulpine137.livejournal.com]

Maybe he was offended by your 'I fought the troll' song ?

[sunfell.livejournal.com]

Link! I want to hear it!

[blueeyedtigress.livejournal.com]

Tom, you are a cuddly, brilliant, talented, funny gentleman. So you have political views, so what, everyone's allowed a foible. ;]

I'm more concerned, personally, that I perpetrated annoying drunken fangirling upon your person at Anthro, and dare to hope that I might be forgiven ...?

[filkertom.livejournal.com]

Umm... snuggle smooch snog? Nothing to forgive, m'dear. :)

[ericcoleman]

Yeah ... yer a babe magnet ... stop it now

Oh ... wait ... maybe that's what annoys the guy ... some cute fannish babe he had his eye on (and yet had no chance in hell with) is smitten with you ...

[alicetheowl.livejournal.com]

My guess is that it's because you're one of Them Liberals. Making that fact obvious apparently attracts trolls. I haven't had any random potshots, but I do get such statements from people I "know" (as well as one can know a userpic and username) as, "Oh no, I blame the self satisfied white, affluent, liberals who think they got themselves off the moral hook by parking these kids and generations to follow in welfare orbit."

[filkertom.livejournal.com]

Well, I left the remark near the end of the previous thread. It has much more to do with my personal hygiene, and enough at-a-glance knowledge of my life that it's someone who knows me. This bugs me, as I'm really not trying to maintain any grudges or enmities. Life's too short, and there's too much fun stuff to do to get bogged down in that. And, again, it's the kind of petty stuff that, as far as I can tell, doesn't actually affect Mr./Ms. Troll's life, so I'm curious as to what the real problem is.

[vixyish.livejournal.com]

Wow. And created *just to reply to that post*, apparently. (Going by the date and time of the account creation.)

Second LJ troll I've seen after a filker lately. Weird. Don't think it's the same person, though. Not the same style.

One of the great drawbacks of the internet, which I first encountered on MOOs: the lure of anonymity. It brings out the worst in some people.

anonymity on the Internet

[popefelix.livejournal.com]

it also gives one the freedom to "do" things that one might never do in real life, for good or for ill.

Example: a close friend of mine back in my ill-fated first semester of college and I were both heavy-duty MOOers (The Sprawl, IIRC). My friend would routinely "do" sexual things in the MOO that she would never consider doing IRL, even when one of her MOO-sex partners was going to be in a place, geographically, where the two of them might meet.

Anonymity is a two-edged sword. Yes, it gives you the freedom to be an asshole, but it also gives you the freedom to experiment in a relatively safe manner. So I wouldn't consider it a drawback, per se. More like a powerful tool that can easily be misused.

[ladyskada.livejournal.com]

*blink* Just read the troll's poor attempt at insulting you.
Sorry you got an ass like that. Frankly, the few times you've said something that sits wrong with me, it's really caused me to wonder why it bothers me. Less insulting, more inviting me to use my under-utilized brain.

[admnaismith.livejournal.com]

Your political outspokenness helps keep me sane. In fact, the more vehemently you rant, the less I feel alone in a sea of lemmings. Thanks for that even more than for your music.

And people with perpetually spotless cars creep me out a little.

[filkertom.livejournal.com]

Thanks, and thanks. Although, again, to be honest, the old Tempo was a disaster, and it was filled with garbage. I got incredibly lazy, and it was vile. Why this is relevant, especially a year and a half after I got rid of the car, I dunno.

[catlin.livejournal.com]

Tom, I have a deep and abiding grudge against you! Fenton is an evil abomination, and my husband likes him way to much. It is all your fault!

And and and... darn you for being an evil liberal! Rahr!

[nimitzbrood.livejournal.com]

*chuckle*

Fenton, among many other things, was actually the inspiration for a character name (The Tinfoil Sheep) I use for segments I submit for this blog's podcast:

http://blogs.ittoolbox.com/security/investigator (http://blogs.ittoolbox.com/security/investigator)

[joshuwain.livejournal.com]

Nothing I would hold against you, to be sure! The one time I met you, you were a fun fellow to chat with. Reading your political thoughts is enjoyable.

[nimitzbrood.livejournal.com]

I don't know...have you been touched by his noodly appendage yet?! ;-)

[twfarlan.livejournal.com]

Heathen pasta idolator. Learn of the glory that is She Whose Hooves Shall Never Be Shod.

[twfarlan.livejournal.com]

Yeah, buddy?! Yeah, PAL?! Well, you can take your opinions about Bush and... hmm, no, we're agreed on that one. Okay, well your iTom service is... really rather cool, actually. Hrm. Oh, I know, that song you did about ... umm. Hmm. No, I like most all of the songs you've released. Okay, there was that time when... umm... you did... that thing. Umm. To that guy. Wears a shirt. You know. Oh, wait, never actually seen you in person. You did something, didn't you?

Nope, I got nothing. You're A-OK in my book.

[hanabishirecca.livejournal.com]

I hate trolls. I had being a moderator on a message board with trolls. There are three types of trolls I have encountered. There are the ever-so-common Half-Trolls that are part troll but aren't a complete troll. And for whatever reason, these half-trolls either refuse to admit or don't realize that they are part-troll.

Then there are the full-blooded trolls. These trolls know they are trolls and just go around trying to piss people off. They don't care who. They don't care how. They just like to troll. I have yet to capture a troll and interrogate them while they are still alive. Because of this, I do not know what motivational factor drives them to behave this way.

And finally there are the were-trolls. Were-trolls are people who are only trolls when exposed to a particular person or particular subject. You are most likely aware of the Clinton trolls. No matter what you say to them, they will troll about Clinton was an evil, terrible President who could do nothing right. In some cases, individuals are infected by some unknown origin with were-troll blood. This is when they troll after a particular person and will follow them across the web to try and hurt them.

I suspect you are victim of a were-troll.

[ladystarblade.livejournal.com]

Hmph, trolls can go snark themselves. (ponders the physics of that ability)

Anyhoo, you're a good guy, Tom Smith...entertaining, outspoken, and funny as hell...don't let 'em get to ya. We love ya.

And hell, you should see the back of my car...eeep! Three different high-heeled black boots that I can't seem to find mates for...a Japanese umbrella...a Dr. Seuss book...and a stick that I put back there for some reason, but I can't remember why...

[nimitzbrood.livejournal.com]

Hmph, trolls can go snark themselves. (ponders the physics of that ability)

*in Bestor's voice*
Anatomically impossible ladystarblade...but you're welcome to try...
;-)

And hell, you should see the back of my car...eeep! Three different high-heeled black boots that I can't seem to find mates for...a Japanese umbrella...a Dr. Seuss book...and a stick that I put back there for some reason, but I can't remember why...

The front and back seat of my pickup is similar. The floor of the front seat is currently filled with empty water bottles and a ton of pistachio shells at the moment. Behind the driver's seat is a plastic tote full of misc papers and crap. On the floor back there is even more misc crap.

Thankfully it's not as bad as a friends car once was - he had a ton of McDonald's bags in there and spilled milk for a week or more. *shudder* Of course that was also the car we called The Orcmobile because it was an ugly brown 80's Dodge Charger with an orange bumper sticker that said "Orcs are okay...if you use lots of ketchup."

All this talk of trolls make me wonder what a trollburger would taste like...

Troll

[markiv1111.livejournal.com]

Make him a peace offering. Bake him some troll house cookies. And oh, yeah: At one point I was thinking about becoming a role playing gamer so I could introduce a character named Ancient Yuletide Carol the Troll. But I never got that far.

Nate B.

Re: Troll

[vixyish.livejournal.com]

Or pay exact change at the troll booth?

[morpheus0013.livejournal.com]

Actually, I do have a bone to pick with you. Something of a grudge.

I can't listen to "One Week" anymore without singing, "Bring me the head of Londo Molari" at the end.

Also, "Five Years" gets stuck in my head really, really easily.

This is why I hate you.

(Not really.)

[vixyish.livejournal.com]

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE*giggle*

Now that will happen to me with "One Week" FOREVER.

[threemeow.livejournal.com]

[searches for troll messages]

All that because of one troll message? I was hoping to see a good fight and all I find is some stupid insults? Sigh.

Anyway, why I'm here. Not a grudge, so you may be disappointed. I'm here to offer a rare glimpse of the other side. I'm conservative. Not republican, but conservative. And, for some reason, I occasionally read your journal.

Your troll? Probably not a political opponent. I doubt if you have any here. None that care enough to troll, anyway. Perhaps if you find some argument you've soundly won you might find your troll, but for the most part you don't have arguments here. You have monologs. And some cheering. That's because you don't tolerate political opposition in your social circles. For the most part, conservatives and Christians aren't tolerated in fandom. The liberal fandom groupthink has so convinced itself that it's brilliant and everyone else is stupid that it's left no room for argument. Or friendship. So who's the audience for your political screed?

I read your journal because I find it amusing. You more than most have convinced me that the liberal idea of activism is to whine to other liberals. This is comforting. You are harmless. You have an audience with which you do nothing constructive.

You see, I'm actually quite moderate. I'm just the kind of person you might be able to sway with cogent liberal argument. If you weren't so vicious and hateful and paranoid. If fandom wasn't such a safe place to be vicious and hateful and paranoid.

[scruffycritter.livejournal.com]

Eh, I'm a moderate too. I'm conservative fiscally and liberal socially. And I'm fannish.

And I disagree.

Christians are tolerated in Fandom. Come to Darkover this November and sing the Halleujah Chorus on Saturday night. Christians are the minority. Just cause some idiot wears a "Christianity is stupid" shirt doesn't make all of fandom agree. Tom's position on religion I have tangled with him on, and I aint even Christian.

I disagree with Tom on occasion about his underlying political conclusions, but his posts usually go to the target of a problem.

Ex: Show me a real conservative who says he is happy with GWB and I'll show you someone in denial....like John McCain.

In defense of trolls, kinda...

[scruffycritter.livejournal.com]

Spewing stuff everyone agrees with is *easy*.

And spewing stuff nobody cares about is easy too.

But once you acquire a troll who has to attack you on the basis of your lack of automative maintenance for a Ford Tempo (one of the biggest lemons EVER ANYWAY), that must mean you said something significant... because he felt he had to say something to stop you even though he wasn't capable of doing it by shredding your views.

So Trolls are good. Trolls are *controls*. Trolls serve an important purpose. And without impotent idiots as them, we wouldn't know who the idiots feel threatened by.

So I say congrats for making the bigtime :-D

Oh, no grudges here. :-)

Re: In defense of trolls, kinda...

[threemeow.livejournal.com]

Nah. It's probably someone who knows Tom. Perhaps an ex-co-worker. Someone who found his journal via google. Who outside of fandom cares what he writes in his own journal, or would even find his journal, and who inside fandom opposes him strongly enough to troll? I don't understand the psycology of that.

[giza.livejournal.com]

How to ban a user from your LJ

[filkertom.livejournal.com]

Already done, thanks.

[isolde-deely.livejournal.com]

sorry you're having a trolling problem . We still love you :hugs:

Yes, I have a grudge.

[hiddenriver.livejournal.com]

My 4 year olds keep demanding "Badger Pajama" whenever we're in the car. And lately they've taken to running around talking about somebody named "Mr. Moto Flix".

Your albums should come with a warning: "May not be suitable for parents of young children."

;-)

Re: Yes, I have a grudge.

[nimitzbrood.livejournal.com]

*ahem* Yes. Pickled Gopher is not a song you want your 9 yr old repeating.

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*ahem* Yes. Pickled Gopher is not a song you want your 9 yr old repeating. <_< >_>

[ashkitty.livejournal.com]

I hear you don't like sparkly purple things...this is clearly unacceptable, and cause to force you to forever rot in hell.

Oh, wait. :p

And I made that up anyway. So I suppose it's all good after all. ;)

Trolls

[nezmaster.livejournal.com]

I was recently a target of lj entries and emails of a hateful sort. It extneded to my lover and my roommates. It was personal. I never foudn out who it was. I ignored it once I established who it WASN'T (ie not one of five people I really cared about)...It went away afterwards.

[sdorn.livejournal.com]

Trolls are small-minded critters. Trolls who attack at dawn are stupid. So what are trolls who attack a songwriter??

Crunchy & good with catsup?

[capplor.livejournal.com]

Silly and with names scanning to Greensleaves?